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[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 5 points 5 months ago (13 children)

Oh that sucks. Tbf the entire concept of the Fediverse is an enormous security nightmare regardless: someone was telling me how a person could spin up an instance and share a picture also served up from their machine, then maliciously correlate the incoming IP addresses from the latter of people who viewed it vs. make interactions (voting or comments) in the former to identify you irl. But at least that takes some technical effort, and there seems no reason not to put additional obstacles up to make it harder.

Unfortunately the Lemmy developers seem to have little incentive to add features that are primarily for Westerners who e.g. don't agree that an authoritian admin and/or mod is always correct regardless of the facts. And Westerners don't seem in that much of a hurry to make alternatives - although K/MBin exists already and Sublinks is coming as well. If we want better, we would need to put in the work to make it happen.

It's still a thousand times better than Reddit:-). Except I no longer recommend Lemmy to people that I meet irl - I can't keep doing that in good conscience anymore, until there is an instance that defederates Lemmy.ml. Yes the new person could block many people and even whole instances, but it seems a little similar to recommending that someone use Arch Linux - like, really!? Hopefully the concept of the Fediverse will improve someday soon and I can do that once more, bc I really do want to.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I think content really should be served on a p2p basis recon it would improve robustness and reduce load on servers also would stop the whole ip vote association. I believe thats how peertube serves its videos but i dont see why it can't be extended to serve all media

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I presume that would have security issues of its own:-), and this is just a guess but it might look more like traffic that some ISPs may want to ban, if implemented like that?

I haven't done anything remotely piratey for decades but people say that there are forums that way. I'm not intending to conflate P2P with the likes of TOR that is merely one implementation of that, just saying that apparently the implementations exist.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The security issues are minimised compared to havibg a centralised instance. And yeah some ISP may block/rate limit thats why net neutrality is so important.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Heh, P2P absolutely does not minimize security concerns, especially of your IP being revealed.

Remember how people got DDoSed all the time because of Skype?

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

It means that each actor can only expose themselves to a subset (more peers less people) of the total network. As opposed to the current situation where u can collect information on more people as a singular actor. But yes you do expose yourself to the peers you connect to.

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