I’m happy to see almost 50,000 users. Sometimes it feels like there’s ten of us.
Fediverse
A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).
If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to !moderators@lemmy.world!
Rules
- Posts must be on topic.
- Be respectful of others.
- Cite the sources used for graphs and other statistics.
- Follow the general Lemmy.world rules.
Learn more at these websites: Join The Fediverse Wiki, Fediverse.info, Wikipedia Page, The Federation Info (Stats), FediDB (Stats), Sub Rehab (Reddit Migration), Search Lemmy
I've been enjoying that fact lately, it's been nice to have actual conversations with people, to actually have my thoughts challenged in healthy ways and to have my mind change and to change the minds of others without the intensity that predominates a lot of other sites. I feel I can talk to people here
I think it's because people trend a lot older on Lemmy than Reddit. I imagine a lot of the more vile opinions you see on Reddit are teenagers. I've not seen much unhealthy discussion/ad hominen on Lemmy yet.
Also it trends towards a more intellectual crowd, even if primarily in the technical sense. Simply having to pick an instance probably keeps away a lot of the people who could otherwise flood every single community with inane questions - i.e. ask other people to do their work for them rather than do a 10 second internet search on their own.
Sometimes, easy accessibility is a bad thing. Nobody profits off a large user base here. We should instead focus on having good users and a platform that serves those users.
I completely agree.
Reddit is worse because of its size, resulting in problems with spam/low effort posts and comments.
This smaller size is a bit of a double-edged sword though. If I want to discuss cooking/chef knives with people, for example, there isn't a niche community specifically for that topic. Maybe in this way it's best for people to head outside of Lemmy to other forums for more specific interests, and Lemmy can be more tech/general discussion oriented.
I haven't quite figured that out yet.
And now for the part this platform doesn't want to hear. THOSE "problematic" posters are a GOOD thing.
You have to understand, if you took the world and seperated its humans by intelligence, the "idiot" group is going to be much bigger than the "PhD" group. Like......by a lot.
So if you ONLY cater to smart people, you ARE limiting your growth. Again.....by a lot.
So the eventual question needs to be asked. "What is Lemmy trying to be?"
Are you trying to be an alternitive to Reddit? Are you trying to replace Reddit? Are you trying to be a Reddit similiar niche community seperate from the mainstream?
Because if you want this to be a small niche unknown community geared towards older people, tech minded, then congrats. Thats what you have.
But if you want a broader reach, then you can't gatekeep the idiots. There's a reason they call them "the unwashed masses". Sometimes even quite literally.
if you took the world and seperated its humans by intelligence, the “idiot” group is going to be much bigger than the “PhD” group. Like…by a lot.
No.... you'd have a bell curve. But even that assumes you have a single good measure of intelligence.
I kind of agree with the rest of your post, but I would have worded it a bit differently, emphasizing that people who found it difficult to start using Lemmy might still be worth having around. Also, I don't think "as large as Reddit" or "small niche unknown" are our only options.
Also makes it easier to keep track of the bigots and idiots
Discuit is not a federated social platform, and we do not plan to support federation in the future either. This is because we do not believe that federated platforms, for a few specific reasons, have a chance of becoming mainstream social platforms one day.
Cringe
Guess i have no reason to go there then.
Shout out to Piefed and its 75 monthly active users: https://piefed.fediverse.observer/dailystats
The beautiful thing about the Fediverse is that those 75 users are in an ecosystem with the 50k+ Lemmy/K/mbin users, along with users from Sublinks, Mastodon, Firefish, etc.
Firefox?
PieFed represent! Highly recommended, the 'Topics' feature that aggregates multiple community is super valuable to me
It is a very neat feature indeed! I would use Piefed as a main if they had "Comments" view, but I guess it will come at some point
And a whopping... 3 servers?
Seems like a cool project though, along with sublinks. Might try them out once they are a bit more stable.
Wait, why is Discuit being accounted for if they are not federated?
I think it's just a comparison because during the Reddit Exodus people often suggested Discuit instead of Lemmy because ActivityPub is "too complicated". So I guess this is a good demonstration that federation really is our best hope at replacing the big billionaire social media platforms.
As another point of reference vs Discuit's 6,787 registered users, Lemmy has 1,904,195 registered users. Kbin has 66,175, and Mbin has 5,453 registered users.
Before this post I had never even heard of Discuit.
Same here. I heard a lot about lemmy when Reddit killed itself.
It's regularly brought up on /r/RedditAlternatives when we suggest Lemmy
That's indeed the reasoning, thank you for phrasing it
I wonder how many of those registered members are active? Maybe 38?
Last time I saw something, I think it was about 300.
Almost as many as there are in the colonial fleet in Battlestar Galactica. So does that mean we can expect that the colonial fleet had someone as prolific at shitposting as The_Picard_Maneuver? That's encouraging to know if so
Does Discuit use ActivityPub?
Negative. It was usually quoted by ActivityPub skeptics who were looking for a centralized solutions, "easier to use".
I was never aware of the numbers, I'm surprised how much smaller it is.
Squabbles, later Squabblr, is also an* interesting casestudy in failure.
He tried to capitalize on the Rexodus, but iirc could not pick just one lane b/t "freedom" and intolerance of the intolerant - you can never have both. Interestingly the Fediverse is currently deciding the same thing, with some neat new tricks coming in v0.19.4 that should help.
mastodon : when you block another account they cease to exist and can no longer interact with your account at all ever
lemmy: when you block another account, the only thing that happens is you can no longer see or interact with that accounts past or future activity, though they can still see, vote, and comment under yours which, just like reddit, is ripe for abuse and doxxing
there can be no discussion of tolerance or free speech when there can be no way to block other abusive accounts from your content or you from harrasment
Oh that sucks. Tbf the entire concept of the Fediverse is an enormous security nightmare regardless: someone was telling me how a person could spin up an instance and share a picture also served up from their machine, then maliciously correlate the incoming IP addresses from the latter of people who viewed it vs. make interactions (voting or comments) in the former to identify you irl. But at least that takes some technical effort, and there seems no reason not to put additional obstacles up to make it harder.
Unfortunately the Lemmy developers seem to have little incentive to add features that are primarily for Westerners who e.g. don't agree that an authoritian admin and/or mod is always correct regardless of the facts. And Westerners don't seem in that much of a hurry to make alternatives - although K/MBin exists already and Sublinks is coming as well. If we want better, we would need to put in the work to make it happen.
It's still a thousand times better than Reddit:-). Except I no longer recommend Lemmy to people that I meet irl - I can't keep doing that in good conscience anymore, until there is an instance that defederates Lemmy.ml. Yes the new person could block many people and even whole instances, but it seems a little similar to recommending that someone use Arch Linux - like, really!? Hopefully the concept of the Fediverse will improve someday soon and I can do that once more, bc I really do want to.
Honestly, I think the future of fediverse advocacy for now should be recommending a specific instance and not explaining the federation part until they are using it
That's a shame, what a perfect name for every social media site
that guy def had same vibes as spez, so nice of him to show what a dumbass he was before he got anywhere
No they don't, nor will they according to their about page.
So what is its "unique vision" and how badly had it been co-opted by racists?