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[–] br3d@lemmy.world 55 points 5 months ago (17 children)

Important to know that real-world testing shows that PHEVs are rarely plugged in and just burn oil much of the time

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io -5 points 5 months ago (8 children)

And burn even more than pure ICEs since they also carry the added weight from the electric stuff. At a time where we need much less cars overall, including EVs.

[–] mlaga97@lemmy.mlaga97.space 27 points 5 months ago (7 children)

That's news to me considering the EPA-rated fuel economy of vehicles with both hybrid and pure ICE drivetrains is universally higher for the hybrid versions.

An ICE vehicle needs a much larger engine than is truly necessary due to the inefficiencies and limitations of mechanical transmissions, whereas a hybrid can have a much smaller, more efficient engine.

A hybrid can potentially act like a 'perfect' transmission, capable of taking in power from an engine running at its single most efficient RPM and, with the aid of battery storage, produce any combination of speed and torque that has an average power less than the output of the ICE.

[–] baru@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's news to me considering the EPA-rated fuel economy of vehicles with both hybrid and pure ICE drivetrains is universally higher for the hybrid versions.

Because they make certain assumptions. Fortunately the EU mandated that cars measures those things since various years. That caused a review of those hybrids. They're usually not charged.

[–] Strykker@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nothing in that comment discussed plugin hybrids though.

A non plug-in hybrid will be more efficient than a full gas vehicle because of the efficiency you can gain through minimizing the engine and tuning it for a more limited rpm range.

This ideally carries over to a plug-in hybrid in the same way even if it's never plugged in, if all the gas engine does is charge the battery it can be more efficient than a gas only car due to reduced engine size requirements.

And electric is better for acceleration, so you get the best of both worlds.

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