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[–] pavnilschanda@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (18 children)

Is this just some media manipulation to give a bad name on AI by connecting them with Nazis despite that it's not just them benefiting from AI?

[–] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip 27 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Sounds like something an AI-loving Nazi would say!

Seriously, though, yes. This was exactly my first thought. There are plenty of reasons to be apprehensive about AI, but conflating it with Nazis is just blatant propaganda.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 32 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Nazis do thrive by spreading misinformation though, and AIs are great at presenting false information in a way that makes it look believable

[–] pavnilschanda@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You are right. But I'm mostly observing how much of the newsfeed headlines talk about how AI is dangerous and dystopian (which can be especially done by bad actors e.g. the Neo-Nazis mentioned in the article, but the fear-mongering headlines outnumber more neutral or sometimes positive ones. Then again many news outlets benefit from such headlines anyway regardless of topic), and this one puts the cherry on top.

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.run 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If neo nazis are deliberately trying to train the AIs that feed into everyone’s workflow, I think it is newsworthy despite what all the other headlines say.

The Neo Nazis are the threat, the AI is being abused.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think this is a misunderstanding of how most of the AI that feed into workflows work. Most of them don't dynamically re-train live based off how users are using them. At least not outside of the context of that user/chat instance.

Most likely what these and others are doing is to download pre-trained open source AI datasets thrn and run them locally so they aren't restrained by any of the commercial AI's limitations on what they will and won't output to users. I highly doubt there's enough material out there to truly train a new AI model on only explicitly racist material. This is just a bunch of assholes doing prompt engineering on open source models running locally.

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.run 2 points 5 months ago

Oh, if it’s being run locally, then I’ve fundamentally misunderstood the situation. Thanks for pointing it out.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago

So the idea to make people think that Nazis are using AI, might have come from a Nazi AI? 🤯

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