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Hello everyone,

Since my daughter was born I am searching for a solution to share pictures of our child with my wife and create a copy of each smartphones photos and other files (documents). At first I tried nextcloud, but there is a lot of overhead and the administration feels kind of complex for what I need.

Anyone else having some input on which software to use?

So my main goal is:

Software running on raspberry pi (preferable docker). Has abilities like shared folder where pictures and documents get uploaded from multiple users and can be viewed (collaboration editing is not needed). Automatically copy files from smartphone (android) to raspberry from selected folder for a simple redundancy.

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[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Nextcloud can't do two-way sync on Android. At all. That's like core functionality for the product IMHO and there's a feature request open I think. When I found that out, I basically spit out my coffee. It's fine if you just want to upload photos you take, that kinda works (but my god is it fragile).

Nextcloud is pretty good at quite a few things, including extensibility, but having some omissions in functionality that boggle the mind.

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not saying you're wrong, but what doesn't work right? I haven't noticed any behavior that seems wrong to me. Usually interact with nextcloud via the nextcloud section that gets added by the client in the file picker/file manager on the OnePlus Nord I'm using.

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The native Android client just can't do two way sync. Just put a text file or something into any folder (from the web or desktop). Now sync that folder to Android. Now edit it on the web/desktop, and look for the changes on Android (without actively telling it to "sync"). Then change the file on Android, these 2nd changes are never sent back to the server unless you explicitly tell it to "sync" again, manually. That's what I mean with 2 way sync.

There are quite a few files where you just need that to work to use them properly, like the database of a password manager as a prime example. Mine can talk to Nextcloud natively, so I don't need the client for that, but I was incredibly close to just switching to syncthing, if I didn't have active users that use the web office integration of Nextcloud.

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just tested that and uh, yeah, what the hell? Not something my workflows need, but that's a shocking oversight considering damn near everything else 100% does that.

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I was just so confused when I found out that this isn't possible. Like, it's a file hosting and sync-ing application. That's like absolute basics. It isn't even "just" an open source project any more, there's a company behind this product now. I am the last person to be angry about an open source project, run by a volunteer or three, not being feature complete.

For what it's worth I think it works in the iOS version of the app (possibly always has?). But that's doesn't exactly help me either.

Honestly it feels like they're trying to get away from being just a file sync platform, and are pushing for more corpo feature sets to compete with gsuite or O365.

Which I mean is great: that's exactly what I needed and why I use it - it let me ditch almost all of my Google services and move it all to selfhosted.

But I bet it also causes incentives to prioritize fixes and features that are focused on that, and pushes stuff like 'make the android sync app work like every other file sync app in history' to the bottom of the list.