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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 34 points 4 months ago (59 children)

I do not understand the urge to start from scratch instead of forking an existing, mature codebase. This is typically a rookie instinct, but they aren't rookie so there's perhaps an alternative motive of some sort.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 98 points 4 months ago (38 children)

Because there are only like 3 browser engines: Chrome’s Blink, Firefox’s Gecko and Apple‘s WebKit. And while they are all open source, KHTML, the last independent browser engine got discontinued last year and hasn’t been actively developed since 2016.

There’s need in the space for an unaffiliated engine. Google’s share is far too high for a healthy market (roughly 75%), WebKit never got big outside of Safari (although there are a few like Gnome Web, there’s no up to date WebKit based browser on Windows) and Gecko has its own problems (like lack of HEVC support).

So, in my book, this is exciting news. Sure it‘ll take a while to mature and it is up against software giants but it‘s something because Mozilla doesn’t seem to have a working strategy to fight against Google‘s monopoly and Apple doesn’t have to.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 20 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Also Gecko's development is led by people thinking that it being usable outside of Firefox\Thunderbird is a bad thing. There was a time when Gnome's browser was based on Gecko, not WebKit. And in general it's influenced by bad practices.

SerenityOS is an amazing project, of course. To do so much work for something completely disconnected from the wider FOSS ecosystem, and with such results.

So it's cool that they've decided to split off the browser as its own project.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

That's always struck me as odd, but I'm also very much an outsider looking in. A "gecko electron" does sound intriguing though.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Servo is going to fill that void

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

Never heard of it, I'll check it out

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I meant alternative browsers, like vimb or surf, but on Gecko and not WebKit.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

Sorry, should've explained I was just responding to the first sentence in particular.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I wonder why Microsoft decided to switch from their own engine to Blink, they could've switched to Gecko and keep the web a little bit more free

[–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Why would Microsoft care?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

Because of the momentum behind Blink/Chromium.

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