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The rocket was undergoing a static fire test of the stage, in which a vehicle is clamped to a test stand while its engines are ignited, when the booster broke free. According to a statement from the company, the rocket was not sufficiently clamped down and blasted off from the test stand "due to a structural failure."

Video of the accidental ascent showed the rocket rising several hundred meters into the sky before it crashed explosively into a mountain 1.5 km away from the test site.

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[–] Kraiden@kbin.run 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

I don't think what he's saying about Falun Gong is so far fetched to be outside the realm of plausibility.

There's been enough reports of similar treatment of other groups, like the Uyghurs and Tibetans, from reputable sources that I believe something is going on there.

As for sources, if the CCP is half as bad as he makes them out to be, it would be irresponsible of him to give sources.

I don't know enough to refute anything you've said, but frankly you're less credible than him right now. I mean no offense but you have a single comment on your account and you've offered nothing to support your claim of twisted truth.

Too much smoke to conclude there's no fire

[–] Clear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

I'm not saying that the persecution against Falung Gong is fake, actually I believe is true, violence against minorities is another Wednesday for the CCP, but he specifically say that, and I quote: "Falun Gong is a meditation practice that started in 1992 in China. At the core of the Falun Gong are values of truthfulness, compassion and tolerance." But the omits the fact that that group is anti gay, anti feminism, anti evolution, is anti medicine and is leader is worshipped as a deity. I wouldn't consider someone who spread such lies as a good source, because at that point he could be lying about anything, that's Alex Jones level of manipulation of the Truth. And you're right, the CCP is a terrible dictatorship, b8t all the info that I have said are freely accessible by an internet search, or even on Wikipedia, they're not some hidden secret that need protection from the CCP such that he have the right to just say things without having to prove them.

And yes, I only have this comments, I prefer to just lurk usually, but this doesn't invalidate my points.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I’m not saying that the persecution against Falung Gong is fake, actually I believe is true, violence against minorities is another Wednesday for the CCP

The Falun Gong was originally an ally of the CCP as recently as 1993. They had a falling out when some of their chief leadership got caught in a string of financial scandals and abuse allegations. Attempts by the state to begin prosecuting church leaders triggered an outcry from the membership, which prompted more arrests and more efforts hide the organizations money, and finally a wholesale exodus from the country by its most devoted members.

Falun Gong leadership arrived in the US and immediately began churning out anti-China spin, with the help of the Epoch Times - an originally Chinese-only paper primarily distributed in Chinese ex-pat communities by church refugees. If you get into the history of the Epoch Times, you should very quickly discover that it is not a reliable source of information.

Which isn't to say China's been great wrt religious freedom or free association. But the modern incarnation of Falun Gong has more in common with Scientology than, say, Mormonism or Baháʼí. You're going to fall down some really QAnon-themed rabbit holes if you take everything their community is saying at face value.

[–] Clear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

And here's the person who know their shit.

From the 15 minutes on the toilet-grade research that I've done I got the feeling it was a Scientology kind of cult, but I had no idea that they were once affiliated with the CCP.

But now I have looked a bit deeper into them and holy shit they are so much worse then I though. They are so much similar to Scientology in level of infiltration and disinformation about their practices it's a bit scary.

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