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[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't spread lies, misinformation and/or FUD.

Uhm what? I asked a question bruh.

They've only made it harder for other parties to freely benefit from RHEL's hard work

True but they still can find something to hurt everyone. Not like I think it will happen but it is a problem with centralization and a company being behind a big and important product.

[–] Aqler@discuss.online 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Uhm what? I asked a question bruh.

The bold parts include a false claim; i.e. Red Hat made RHEL paid.. So it's perfectly possible to include a lie, piece of misinformation and/or straight up FUD within a question.

True but they still can find something to hurt everyone. Not like I think it will happen but it is a problem with centralization and a company being behind a big and important product.

I agree with you that Red Hat is indeed way too powerful in this realm. Hence, there will inevitably always be the fear that they might (somehow) misuse their power. So far, they've been mostly benevolent and I hope it will stay that way. There's no fault at being cautious, but this should never lead us towards toxic behavior.

EDIT: Why the downvotes?

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The bold parts include a false claim; i.e. Red Hat made RHEL paid..

Isn't it? And for distro devs access to the source code is the only thing that matters. I am quite sure it is paid.

There's no fault at being cautious, but this should never lead us towards toxic behavior.

I agree but I think you are the toxic one here. You boldly accuse a kinda new Linux user that asks a question in sharing misinformation and being toxic. I kinda get the first part but the second? You either don't know what toxicity is or you're just being toxic.

[–] Aqler@discuss.online 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Isn’t it?

No-cost RHEL is accessible for individuals or small teams up to 16 devices. RHEL is paid for enterprises and businesses because of its support; which also includes (exclusive) articles and documentation.

You made it seem as if you were regurgitating the common line of misinformation when last year Red Hat changed how access to RHEL's source code worked.

That regurgitated statement is misinformation. Besides that event, which actually didn't make RHEL paid, I'm unaware of Red Hat retroactively changing a formerly free service to cost money instead.

And for distro devs access to the source code is the only thing that matters.

Do you mean the people working on Oracle Linux, AlmaLinux OS and/or Rocky Linux? Or did you actually primarily imply others? If so, could you elaborate?

but I think you are the toxic one here.

😅. Sorry, this is just not very productive. But, I will try to be more careful with the language I use when communicating with you 😉.

You boldly accuse a kinda new Linux user that asks a question in sharing misinformation

If, with your earlier statement, you meant the whole RHEL source code fiasco from last year, then that's plain misinformation. And if you share that, then that's sharing misinformation.

I prefer open conversation in which we can communicate directly. If you're sensitive to that, then I will abstain from doing so when I'm interacting with you.

and being toxic.

At worst, I only implied it. At best, it's a general advice directed towards anyone that happens to read it. To be clear, I didn't intend to attack you. So no need to be offended. Nor should you take it personally.

~~Finally, as this comment of yours clearly shows, you're at least somewhat susceptible to misunderstand the writing of others. Ain't we all to some degree? Though..., (perhaps) some more than others. Regardless, likewise, without trying to offend you or whatsoever, I would like to propose the idea that you might have jumped to conclusions that you didn't have to necessarily.~~