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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We used to make fun of people like this. Humiliate them. Alas, no more. Everyone's opinion is now valuable.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Humiliating people does not help them grow, study suggests

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's just as equally effective to break dumb beliefs like this as reasoning is, and both are far more effective than empathy, according to studies.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm going to need a source for those claims.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GIYF. the paper is out there, published and reviewed. circa 2021, I think.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You made the claim, you provide the source.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

naw, I'm lying. it doesn't exist. whatever you want to believe, I don't fucking care about you.

If you want to look it up, look it up. if you don't, don't. I have zero interest in trying to convince retards.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mmk and I have no reason to take anything you say seriously. Guess you're just a lying sack of shit.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

heh, sure, if you say so. 🤷‍♂️ If saying that makes you feel better, I'm happy for you.

The paper still exists, regardless whether you believe in it or not, though.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cool, dunno why you can't link it since you are the one using it.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dunno why you can't link it since you are the one caring so much

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because that's the basics of discussion. You use a source, you link it to support your words.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but... I don't want to. I don't care about you or your opinions enough to bother. 👍

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

also, I already said I'm lying. Are you wanting to prove I'm lying about lying?

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

No, but it prevents other people from engaging with a topic to begin with

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

On the other hand, normalizing and allowing it just enables and validates it.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that’s what the internet has done for us, it’s removed that sort “social immune system” that prevented crazy ideas from spreading. Before, if somebody had some crazy ideas, the most they could usually do was rant to people on the bus/subway, maybe make some pamphlets, or some other small-scale thing to spread the idea. At best you might find someone on AM radio broadcasting at weird hours. Individuals would get exposed to it, but would likely never pass it on, this contained crazy ideas and they rarely got traction to spread.

Now the internet comes along, and suddenly crazies are getting hooked up with impressionable people easier than ever before. Crazy ideas have an almost endless supply of rubes that will eat them right up. Our social immune system can’t protect society from all the insane things flying around at high speeds all over the place now. It’s intellectual chaos.

[–] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean the social immune system also prevented ideas like worker solidarity, gender equality, socioeconomic mobility, sexual freedom, etc. from spreading but I get your point. Opening Pandora's box let the crazies out as well as the AOC/Bernie and free Palestine crowds.

[–] OsaErisXero@kbin.run 4 points 1 year ago

The problem being, at least for the moment, the crazy is winning

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not that their opinion is now valuable. We just figured out that Bullying doesn't work.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] archon@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

To supress elements in a herd? Sure it does.

Healthy for the individual? Not so much.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's like no bully ever got lunch money from another kid ever, because bullying doesn't work?

the mafia/mob tried to run protection rackets, but were never successful because bullying doesn't work.

🙄

jfc you people. 🤦‍♂️

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago

Ok, bullying doesn't work if you have "good intentions"