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A while back there was some debate about the Linux kernel dropping support for some very old GPUs. (I can't remember the exact models, but they were roughly from the late 90's)

It spurred a lot of discussion on how many years of hardware support is reasonable to expect.

I would like to hear y'alls views on this. What do you think is reasonable?

The fact that some people were mad that their 25 year old GPU wouldn't be officially supported by the latest Linux kernel seemed pretty silly to me. At that point, the machine is a vintage piece of tech history. Valuable in its own right, and very cool to keep alive, but I don't think it's unreasonable for the devs to drop it after two and a half decades.

I think for me, a 10 year minimum seems reasonable.

And obviously, much of this work is for little to no pay, so love and gratitude to all the devs that help keep this incredible community and ecosystem alive!

And don't forget to Pay for your free software!!!

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[–] matengor@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Usually, my computers dropped in performance after around 10 years. They might contain parts that are a few years older by that time. So, to be able to use them further, I would suggest a minimum of 15 years.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Good point. If I know it'll meet my needs, I'm sometimes inclined to buy tech that's a few years old, especially if the newer version just adds cloud, AI, or something else I don't want/need. In many cases it's still marketed the same so I think end of support dates should be clearly marked on the product itself so the consumer can make an informed choice. Intentionally bricking a device should be treated as littering and the company should be responsible for disposal fees.

Linux is a different story because of the volunteer presence. If anything Linux should get subsidies for keeping e-waste out of landfills after the manufacturer has long abandoned the product.

My laptop is about 5 years old now and still runs as fast as the day I bought it, if not faster. I replaced the battery twice, but this thing could go another 5-10 years if I don't drop it or spill something on it.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If anything Linux should get subsidies for keeping e-waste out of landfills

Great idea.

[–] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

I think kde might be working on something like that, but Idk.