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[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't need to know specifics to know the judge is a fucker for saying that the bullying allegations are false. Fuck off dude, no wonder Trump has such a good chance of becoming president again; everyone in power is a bully, defends bullies at every step, and detests victims. The judge isn't trying to address what led to this child's death, instead they're pissed that the victim's family is getting attention. The best part is the dumb mother fucker just called way more attention to what they wanted snuffed out.

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They're not taking it offline because they're denying those kids were bullies, but because they are now harassed themselves, but by the entire Internet.

Obviously the kids responsible for the suicide should face consequences for their actions. But mob justice isn't going to fix anything, except for letting a new round of bullies feel good about themselves.

Can you imagine the damage of one careless keyboard warrior digging up the wrong personal info, and then tend of thousands people harassing them? How many wrongs does it take to make a right?

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you arguing that this woman shouldn't be able to tell her story - without naming names - because someone else might get angry and do the wrong thing, and then a bunch of other people might do the wrong thing with the wrong information?

People are supposed to get angry about shit like this - it's how change happens. And people have to know about things to get angry.

The problem here isn't the woman telling her story, it's that mob harassment is a tool being used politically and this behavior you are worried about has become normalized. Twenty years ago, this would've led to a bunch of people contacting law enforcement and politicians to demand justice, but now everyone harasses people directly because our system isn't responsive and because mob justice is treated as legitimate as long as it's enacted upon the right people.

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 6 points 4 months ago

Nope, that's not what I'm arguing at all. I was just pointing out how the commenter above me was misrepresenting the judges reasoning.

Obviously people should get angry over this. But I do not have enough faith in social media to believe that anger will find a healthy outlet if left unmanaged.

But if you are asking for my opinion - I think the woman should be allowed to tell her story, as long as she doesn't encourage naming the perpetrators or does so herself. And, given the circumstances / if possible, disable public comments and reposting to discourage further harassment.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz 6 points 4 months ago

The judge didn't say that no bullying happened, that was one of the lawyers

Patrick Guild, the plaintiffs’ attorney, said he couldn’t comment on the judge’s order because the case was sealed by court order, adding that he was disappointed to see it posted on social media.

“What has happened as a result of that is that a lot of different theories, and I’ll say, false information has come out” as to the reasons for the order, Guild said. He added that the accusations of bullying by his clients are “patently false” but have been “elevated to such a grand scale based on Heather Wyatt’s number of followers.”

“As a result, my clients have been receiving threats that in my opinion can be construed as real concerns for their safety,” he said