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[–] CHINESEBOTTROLL@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (18 children)

countries in which the Dictatorship of the Proletariat failed to cede power to the working class and establish a socialist economic structure

Oh, so like every single other place that tried to implement that deranged system? Thank you for this very important distinction.

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (12 children)

It's so very capitalist to look at failed attempts to escape capitalism which were sabotaged by capitalists as indication that the need to rebel is the problem.

[–] gxgx55@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Failing to account for greed for power some people have is in itself a fatal flaw, to be honest. Anyone who advocates for the exact same actions and glorifies the USSR knows what they are doing, they're hoping to come out on top after their desired revolution. Unfortunately, there are plenty of those kinds of people on this platform...

[–] phobiac@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, how do you think governments in large capitalist economies (such as the US) properly account for greed for power and keep it in check? Do you think they are doing a good job on that front?

[–] gxgx55@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Poorly, but not worse than a dictatorship(such as the USSR).

What's your point?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's objectively false. USSR managed to provide everyone with food, housing, healthcare, education, and jobs. Nobody worried about losing their job and ending up on the street or that they wouldn't be able to retire in dignity. People had reasonable work hours and enjoyed over 20 days vacation. None of the capitalist regimes around today are able to achieve these things.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

"USSR managed to provide everyone with food, housing, healthcare, education, and jobs"

the victims of the holodomor would like a word

[–] phobiac@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You might want to turn that incredibly critical eye you've got for communism back in on capitalism, that's all.

[–] gxgx55@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I... am?

What is this, I am against dictatorial abominations, so that means I am in favor of capitalist abuse? I am literally saying that opposition to capitalism is shooting itself in the foot by tolerating the existence of authoritarian "communists".

Unless you're an actual tankie, your words towards me make no sense.

[–] phobiac@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Misunderstanding on my end then, I made some clearly unfair assumptions. I agree with you there and apologize for the mischaracterization.

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