There is a saying, something along the lines of 'politics is the shadow that economics casts over society'. Now obviously there is no one to one correlation between a country's economic and political systems, but rich people often respond to calls for economic reform by trying to make the public fight among themselves. Fascism is one possibility, 'culture war' is another, bread and circuses a third, and so on.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Trying to think of that one time fascism was economically beneficial to capitalists... Nope. I can't recall one.

Edit: Oh, wait. If you were supplying a side against fascism, it's always been very beneficial. I know that's in contrast to the meme, but supports your point in a "round peg; square hole" kinda way.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_involved_in_the_Holocaust

Fascism has always been done by and for Capitalists.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You...literally just linked a list of suppliers to a regime. Which, of course, had to exist in order for the regime to be sustained. Which of course lost supply as the sustainability diminished.

Do you know how many companies were passive or against it? It's a little more... Quite a bit more. Millions(?) more. You've essentially just tried to correlated registered businesses with the entire economic school of Capitalism. "If it's a registered business, it's Capitalism, huuur."

Come on, I can think of better counter-points than that.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wait, did you think people were saying that the Nazis were for every Capitalist on the planet? No, we were talking about Nazi Germany and some Western companies.

You've fundamentally misunderstood what everyone was talking about.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Superman, Homelander, and fascism on the rise in the leading capitalism nation?

What did you think it was about?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fascism has always been beneficial for Capitalists, because it was always extremely profitable, the entire point of fascism. Simple.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Literally, that was one of my points...

Where are you trying to go with this?

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Trying to think of that one time fascism was economically beneficial to capitalists... Nope. I can't recall one.

Almost all fascist politicians were supported by local elites who thought they could control them. Sometimes they could; sometimes the fascists got too strong to be controlled.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's the general recipe of ultra-nationalistic fascism, yes. You're not making much of a point and you're also disregarding all the other instances of fascism.

A common thread being control, some times that can be through a local economical channel. That's not immediately "Capitalism" and actually quite unrelated.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

All fascism is nationalist. There's no 'other instance'. And a common theme in the rise of fascism is a compromise between the rich (capitalists, local gentry, etc.) and the fascist organisation, where the former bankrolls the latter in return for maintaining their economic and social position / backdoor deals / protection. Further, this usually happens as a result of some marginalised group - factory workers, serfs, women, etc. getting too uppity.