So… let’s say if a 37 year old man, born male, with a wife, born female, who is married with kids with a house in suburbia and stable income, calls some regular thai ladyboy a “fag”, while said ladyboy counters “pretty harsh tone for a cis” and then that 37 year old man gets angry over the fact that he’s being called “cis”… That man is being angry about the fact that he is being called non-trans?

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The outrage is more that a label is being applied to them. They want it to be 'women' and 'trans women', where only 'non-normal' identities get a label.

The application of 'cis' bothers conservatives because it changes the narrative, from people who identify as their assigned sex being 'the default', into cis people just another state of identity with no more significance than the others.

[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Huh…. Weird. And here I am, having grown up with an aunt who always wanted to be a man, and to be honest, I never questioned it. I got told as a kid that he felt he was born in the wrong body, so I just went with it. I never had the urge to call him a trans-woman or anything, not even as a teen. Might be good to get rid of that trans thing.

[–] femtech@midwest.social 6 points 4 months ago

They would be a trans man fyi.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

We learn whatever we're taught, and many people were taught that people who are different should do whatever it takes to be "normal".

Those people hide their true self and ridicule/attack others so they must do the same.

Fortunately, there are LESS people teaching that now. The kids I interact with at work give a lot of hope for the future.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

I'm not an expert on assholes, so I can only guess at his motivation, but I have a theory that the guy in your example maybe doesn't actually know what cis means, but he understands his intentions behind saying "fag" so he assumes that "cis" was intended in the same way.

That's just my take, a proctologist may have better insight.