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[–] Kacarott@aussie.zone 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

If people had to kill their own meat, not only would there be more vegans, but people who did eat meat would probably eat a lot less on average than the average person today does. It would probably make a lot of people healthier too.

[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

people would probably eat less meat sure just because of the logistics of it, but did u forget that history is a thing? 150 odd years ago most people regularly slaughtered their own animals a few hundred years further back and basically everyone did, and at the same time almost everyone with very very few exceptions ate meat.

[–] Kacarott@aussie.zone 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Of course they did, they also had drastically less options than they do today. It's no coincidence that veganism is a fairly new concept, it's only fairly recently that it's become feasible.

[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My point is that slaughtering ur own animals is in no way a deterrent for eating meat at least no more that any other prep for any food is. Also Pescetarianism was available as a life style and very few people chose it despite not having to slaughter anything smart, and despite fish being very easy to kill and butcher from a literal and moral perspective.

[–] Kacarott@aussie.zone 3 points 4 months ago

Well I agree with you that I don't think it was much of a deterrent, because that was the reality of how people were raised. But I think these days many people have never killed the animals they eat, and they were also not raised in the same conditions, so I suspect that forcing people to kill their own animals today would indeed be somewhat of a deterrent, at least to certain groups of people. But this is of course all just my opinion and speculation.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It would eliminate fast food that's for sure.

Healthier is debatable. Meat is, relatively speaking, pretty good from a health perspective.

Most of what we eat that's "bad for us" is refined carbohydrates. Sugar, fried starches, breads, that kinda shit. The burger patty is far from the worst offender on the plate.

If suddenly everyone is slaughtering their own animals, the foods they turn to to replace this calories aren't going to be leafy greens, they're going to be shitty carbs. Shitty carbs are already most of people's diets.

[–] Kacarott@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's a fair point, I was mostly thinking that many people consume far too much meat, and that reducing it would be healthy, but if it's only being replaced with trash then it wouldn't be any better

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

If we're talking about processed meat, that's probably true. Even a small amount is probably too much.* If we're talking about like, grilled whole cuts? Which admittedly probably isn't typical in most diets, hard to get too much of that. And would be much more common if we were butchering our own meat. But so too would probably be sausage and cured meat so, now I'm not so sure things would change that much.

*Guilty as charged.