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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -1 points 4 months ago (27 children)

The experiences of animals are real and matter. Their suffering is identical in nature to your own. Your moral perspective demands that you deny or ignore these facts. If you can deny that an animal's experience has any value, you can do the same to a human.

[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I can deny the importance of human experience (the heat death of the universe will erase all traces of our existence and impact) without wanting to kill humans right now.

How did you conclude the experiences of animals matter?

How do you know animals are having experiences?

How do you know human experiences matter?

I don’t claim to have any answers to the above but I’ve never heard a satisfactory answer to these questions other than ‘I just believe it is so’ and if it boils down to my belief versus your belief I have to conclude that neither one of us actually has any idea.

[–] rekorse@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I dont know why you call it your moral system, when your system apparently is that the earth is supreme, humans dont matter, therefore anything that happens is okay. Morals are a societal thing, if you dont care about society then what's the point?

How do you apply this system to your own actions? Just anything goes cause it doesnt matter?

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago

They don't. It's a facile philosophy invented on the spot to avoid thinking rationally about ideas and feelings that they are not prepared to process. It's disingenuous bullshit that we aren't really supposed to engage with, it's just suppose to distract and derail their own thought process. It's fucking pathetic, practically solipsism.

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