what i wrote is that being vegan has not had the effect you are proposing it would. you are making up a scenario where it might work and asking why i don't think it would work in that scenario.

[–] businessfish@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

being vegan is literally about not supporting the meat industry, so i genuinely do not understand what you're trying to say. that one person alone being vegan won't make a difference? that not supporting the meat industry is the same as supporting the meat industry, which is demonstrably false? i don't know of a more easy and effective way for a single person to make a difference than to stop supporting it altogether, and broad change starts with individuals deciding to make that change.

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

being vegan is literally about not supporting the meat industry,

and you can do that, but don't claim it's an

easy and effective way for a single person to make a difference

because you can see that it has not stopped the growth of the industry and it has not led to a shrinking of the industry.

[–] businessfish@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

yeah dude vegans make up a pretty small portion of the population, so of course the meat industry hasn't been just erased like magic. societal changes like this happen at a glacial pace and the idea is that more people become vegan over time and thus demand for those products gradually falls. even if 10% of the population went vegan, demand for those products would fall by 10% and there would be that many less animals killed for it because it would not be profitable.

to claim that it is ineffective is like claiming that eating healthy makes no difference from eating like shit after doing it for a single day and not seeing amazing results.

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

to claim that it is ineffective is like claiming that eating healthy makes no difference from eating like shit after doing it for a single day and not seeing amazing results.

markets don't follow natural law like biology does.

[–] businessfish@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i think you need to look up how supply and demand works. i've exhausted my "arguing with people on the internet who clearly don't want their minds changed" time for today, so have a good one.

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

i'm intimately aware of the price discovery theory you've mentioned, but it does not have any real predictive power, and it makes no claims about how production levels are impacted by markets.

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

of course the meat industry hasn’t been just erased like magic.

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

if 10% of the population went vegan, demand for those products would fall by 10% and there would be that many less animals killed for it

i don't know how you can prove this.