Actually, I'd say the fediverse nature is pretty much contrary to liberal values, at least in the state it exists right now with most instances being maintained by volunteers and donations, not corporations (let's obviate Threads for the moment because there's no full federation)

I'd say that Threads or the former Twitter allign far better with the values of liberalism, being for-profit private companies.

[–] blue_berry@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Firstly: commerzialization will come eventually anyways.

Secondly: what has all of that to do with democracy? I would hope that the Fediverse thrives to become a democratic place.

Also, the Fediverse is currently still rather small. If it should benefit humanity as a whole, you will not be able to avoid corporations completely.

I don’t want to save the liberal democracy, thanks.

Wow, that's great. Only the thing that our society is based on for last decades with a tradition of hundreds of years. Great, down the toilet with it! Hope you got some idea with what to replace it ...

[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Firstly: commerzialization will come eventually anyways

And it's going to make the fediverse way worse.

Secondly: what has all of that to do with democracy? I would hope that the Fediverse thrives to become a democratic place.

I'm not sure I understand your idea of democracy. Isn't the fediverse "democratic" already? Everyone is free to federate and defederate with anyone.

Also, the Fediverse is currently still rather small. If it should benefit humanity as a whole, you will not be able to avoid corporations completely.

Corporations are not humans. They use us and see us as nothing more than numbers. They don't give a shit about people or humanity as a whole.

I'll make sure to block every corp I'm aware of. You're still free to do otherwise, of course. Isn't that democracy for you?

Wow, that's great. Only the thing that our society is based on for last decades with a tradition of hundreds of years. Great, down the toilet with it! Hope you got some idea with what to replace it ...

You have idealised liberalism. It only has brought crisis after crisis, provoked unnecessary wars, given birth to monstrous cynical corporations, etc.

I'm not saying democracy is broken, just liberalism and capitalism.