We shouldn't fall into a trap of defining what's extreme as a deviation from the mainstream liberal bias in the west. In my view the idea that a minority of people should own the means of production and dictate the economic reality for the working majority is what's extreme. It is true, that Marxists advocate for extreme measures for overthrowing an extreme system though.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I generally agree, however whether something is reasonable or just has little to do with deviation from the norm. It's linguistic gymnastics, really. Marxism is extreme in the sense that it is a firmly Leftist position in a world dominated by Capital, but is perfectly reasonable at the same time.

I dunno, more of a monologue than a response, but I hope it cleared up my intent.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

For sure, I do think this is worth pushing back on though. If we agree that the world capitalism built is itself extreme then, a firmly Leftist ideology is perhaps something we should be striving for to get away from the state we currently find ourselves in.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Would you care to elaborate on what aspects of these beliefs you find to be extreme. Is it the idea that workers should own the fruits of their labor, or perhaps the idea that the purpose of work should be for common benefit?

[–] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not saying I find them extreme, I'm saying they're not extreme but people hear the word and immediately think far left extremism

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

But what is far left extremism exactly, how is it even defined. The typical definition seems to be anything that deviates too far from the status quo.