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ID Scanners Can Change How Your Local Bar Treats You—and Whether It Lets You In. (themarkup.org)

submitted 4 months ago by ModerateImprovement@sh.itjust.works to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes totally reasonable some corpos and business get to claim you are a criminal and impose de facto penalties on you.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Your email app will give your messages to other companies, your navigation app will share your exact location with marketers, and your dating app will sell your sexual preferences to the highest bidder, but sure, bars having a way to warn each other which costumers tried to assault a waitress is a bridge to far.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You presume much about what services I use. There is much to be said about the power private corps have over us, the complications of being unable or unwilling to use their services making you a de facto outsider.

I don't see how these wrongs make another right.

Some of the actions alleged are actual crimes. It is a bad idea to have them handle para-legally. Sure being excluded from visiting bars is a light punishment (for someone actually guilty, completely unfair for an innocent person) but nothing guarantees it will stay there and won't also be used leaked to prospective employers and other people. In fact the first time you get denied you could very well not be alone and have to convince people you are not a rapist or something.

It's exactly the sort of information you not want bartenders and bouncers conjuring and trading in.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I meant people generally give away this data, not you specifically, and again, I can see the potential for abuse, but alcohol isn't like other goods and services. When a bartender serves you alcohol, they become legally liable for your actions if you overconsume, in civil and (in some states) criminal court, and for good reason; irresponsible alcohol sales can kill people. Regulating how this data can be used is one thing, but sharing data on what customers are liabilities is objectively good, not just bars, but public safety.