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[–] airbreather@lemmy.world 243 points 10 months ago (24 children)

Why are they encrypting their communications? Do they have something to hide?

If they've got nothing to hide, then they've got nothing to fear.

Or so I've heard, anyway, right?

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (13 children)

I don't quite get these comments, I think our emergency services went encrypted a while back in Vancouver Canada and I'm surprised NY wasn't already encrypted?

What about keeping the communications encrypted for the privacy and safety of people involved, and storing the records for a set amount of time. Anyone with access to the live feed can access the backups during that time, and report issues as needed.

I'm not familiar with the issues with the police department, so maybe a better compromise would be to open up the feeds publicly after a set amount of time?

[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I'll put it simple.

American cops are not equivalent to Canadian cops. US cops use tax payer money to pay lawsuits but are allowed a special police union as well. No other public servants get a union to do their bidding while tax payers foot the bill.

Open the channels. What's there to hide. In emergency events, yes it could be an issue. But people also need to know where serious events might be occurring in their areas.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'd much rather have some real accountability measures than the accidental accountability occasionally provided by broadcasting their communications.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How about both? The governmental systems are supposed to be open so that they can be observed to be truthful and trustworthy, and then keep checking anyways.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think things like names of suspects or victims should be made public.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The American legal system has made a conscious decision to require public trials (so accused are public) with the right to face your accuser (so victims are public). This does remove privacy, but the idea is that the trade off is worth it to avoid people being "convinced" in secret trials.

You may disagree with this trade off, but it's baked in and changing it would be a big difference. Some exceptions exist, I think, but IANAL.

[–] SapientLasagna@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

Obviously nobody should disappear into secret jails, but victims and witnesses are not on trial, and should have their privacy protected.

Having random people listening to police comms is no substitute for a competent regulator.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Fine, roll that out before you take away what we have

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