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A federal district court in New York has ruled that U.S. border agents must obtain a warrant before searching the electronic devices of Americans and international travelers crossing the U.S. border.

The ruling on July 24 is the latest court opinion to upend the U.S. government’s long-standing legal argument, which asserts that federal border agents should be allowed to access the devices of travelers at ports of entry, like airports, seaports and land borders, without a court-approved warrant.

“The ruling makes clear that border agents need a warrant before they can access what the Supreme Court has called ‘a window into a person’s life,’” Scott Wilkens, senior counsel at the Knight First Amendment Institute, one of the groups that filed in the case, said in a press release Friday.

The district court’s ruling takes effect across the U.S. Eastern District of New York, which includes New York City-area airports like John F. Kennedy International Airport, one of the largest transportation hubs in the United States.

Critics have for years argued that these searches are unconstitutional and violate the Fourth Amendment, which protects against unwarranted searches and seizures of a person’s electronic devices.

In this court ruling, the judge relied in part on an amicus brief filed on the defendant’s behalf that argued the unwarranted border searches also violate the First Amendment on grounds of presenting an “unduly high” risk of a chilling effect on press activities and journalists crossing the border.

With several federal courts ruling on border searches in recent years, the issue of their legality is likely to end up before the Supreme Court, unless lawmakers act sooner.

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[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 57 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This was such an absolute bullshit abuse of power and violation of rights. I'm also honestly surprised this wasn't lobbied against by corporations who don't want their corporate devices that contain proprietary information to be accessed by any Joe Dipshit working at an airport.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If it's a concern for a corp, they can just ship the devices through the mail if there's less scrutiny through the mail system (there usually is, they aren't going to check the contents of every drive or try to crack the pin on every phone), or they just store their data in the cloud and pay for a new device for use at the destination so it never crosses the border.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They won’t try to crack your pin at airports either, they just force you to enter it against your will, under threat of arrest.

[–] aramova@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you're a US citizen they'll just seize it and send it in for forensics.

While they can make your life miserable, and revoke any entry programs you're a member of, they can't prevent a citizen from crossing the border. Only the stuff you carry.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They aren’t preventing you from entering, they are accepting your entry and taking you into border patrol custody for failure to comply.

I don’t actually know the proper terminology, but there’s nothing stopping them from arresting you for non compliance. They have broad power within 100 miles of a border crossing.

[–] aramova@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The real lesson here is Lemmy/Reddit is no substitution for a lawyer. ACLU spells it out but in the end there are a lot of circumstances that apply.

Ultimately, if you're a US Citizen, and that's not in question, they can only take your stuff, they can't arrest you.

Ars interviewed an attorney about this...

"For a US citizen, CBP essentially has to let them back into the country," Nathan Freed Wessler, an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union, told Ars. "They can't be detained indefinitely for refusing to provide a password. They may be detained for hours and they may seize the phone for weeks or months while [CBP tries] to break into it."

So, take it however you will.

For what it's worth I've done a bit over 1.6 million air miles on Delta for work and have the silly keychain tag to prove it, and the only time customs has ever given me shit was at YYZ, the Canadians are no joke if you come in on a US passport, and you'd better have proof you're not coming there for 3 days to do a job that a Canadian could do. In my case I was training some Canadians but People Ops were kind enough not to get me the paperwork I needed.

Most big companies have training for their international travelers as well, the ones I've worked with always say to surrender passwords and equipment, and contact SecOps to let them know as soon as you safely can, some even have nice systems that print out invitation letters and proof of ownership for equipment including serial numbers.

Edit: CBP is NOT a court order to provide a password. If a court orders it and you refuse, well that's contempt, and the list of people who've sat in prison refusing is no joke.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

We're talking about cell phones here, not hard drives and laptops. I'm not going to ship my cell phone every time I fly out of the country, if only because it has my plane tickets and travel information that I'll need when I land. And emails and texts might be "stored" in the cloud, but old emails are also stored on the cell phone and can be read even with wifi/cell data turned off.