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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 80 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I was talking to my dad about my job and how people don't know how to use Linux. He said "Yeah, nobody uses that UNIX stuff anymore."

Then I pointed out that his phone and his computer both run flavors of UNIX, since he's been using Apple products since I made him switch by not supporting his issues with Windows, and that most of the websites and apps he's using are running Linux on the backend.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, he is correct. Linux is not UNIX. It is UNIX-like system. And Android is abomination.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think macOS is actually Unix certified. It at least was at one point.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

At one point many years ago. BSD is true UNIX btw.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I looked it up. macOS is still unix certified.

BSD is usually not unix certified, so has to refer to itself as unix like.

What is and isn't unix is kind of up to what definition you're working with (pedigree, legally, practically).

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And what always gets lost in these discussions is if that old Unix stuff was so amazingly good that we should automatically assume Linux is inferior for not doing it. Even though all the old Unix vendors are basically dead now and replaced by Linux. That might have happened for a reason.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

BSD is usually not unix certified, so has to refer to itself as unix like.

Wait, really? Not POSIX? Huh

Also another reason I doubt current version macos is certified is:

"Because it's an expensive and lengthy process. And every version will need to be re-certified."

[–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] uis@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago

I clicked on their certificate and was first registered in ‘03, with renewal due in May of this year.

So.. I don’t know! Lol

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

The main difference between being unix certified or not is being willing to pay for it. That's pretty much it.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

then what did he say after that?