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Australian woman used her BYD electric car to power her son's dialysis machine during a blackout::A BYD electric car acted as a life-saving power generator during extreme weather in Australia.

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[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A BYD electric car acted as a life-saving power generator during extreme weather in Australia.

Batteries are not generators, they're storage

There is no power being generated

[–] anlumo@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Power can’t be generated anyways, only transformed.

[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Energy can't be created, yes. From what I understand though electrical power is generated by conversion of energy, as in the electrical potential did not exist before and after 'generation' of power the potential exists.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

By that logic a battery is a generator, since it converts chemical potential energy into electricity.

Generators, as typically understood, convert mechanical energy into electricity.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nah it's akin to a gas tank. It isn't generating gasoline, just storing it for later use.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Depends on the level you're viewing it from.

At a high level, yes, the purpose is basically the same as a gas tank. You put something in (electricity), and take that something back out again later. Though it differs from simple physical storage in that you get slightly less back out than what you stored.

At the level of the actual physics of the component, no. Gas goes into a tank as gas, remains gas in the tank, then come back out as (the same amount of) gas. Electricity goes into a battery, is converted into chemical potential by using that electricity to move ions from one side of the battery to the other, and comes back out by reversing that reaction. There is no electricity in a battery that isn't charging or discharging.

If instead of a chemical battery it was a mechanical spring that was wound up with an electric motor, and you extracted the power by running it in reverse as a generator from the energy of the spring, is that still storing electricity? A battery is the same, just chemical instead of physical.

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Except a battery is converting chemicals and using their reactions to generate electricity. Think of it more like a reservoir with a hydro plant. Your feed in electricity, the hydro plant pumps water in the tank, then during a blackout? The reservoir empties itself through the turbine, re-generating electricity. The cars battery does a similar thing. It takes electricity to change the state of the chemicals, then lets the chemicals react to generate electricity.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah it’s a giant UPS on wheels.