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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Is language conscious? Is it possible to "encode" human thinking into the media we produce?

Humans certainly "decode" ideas, knowledge, trains of logic and more from media, but does that mean the media contains the components of consciousness?

Is it possible to produce a machine that "decodes" not the content of media, but the process through which it was produced? Does media contain the latter in the first place?

How can you tell the difference if it does?

The more I learn about how modern machine learning actually works, the more certain I become that even if having a machine "decode" human media is the path to AGI, LLMs ain't it.

It just doesn't work in a way that would allow for a mind to arise.

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is language conscious?

Are atoms?

I don't know if LLMs of a large enough size can achieve (or sufficiently emulate) consciousness, but I do know that we barely know anything about consciousness, let alone it's limits.

[–] mke@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Saying "we don't know, and it's complicated, therefore there's a chance, maybe, depending" is barely the beginning of an argument.