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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But co-ops can exist outside the system

They straight up do not exist outside the system? I dont know why you think they exist outside the system.

[–] save_the_humans@leminal.space 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I mean its the goal.. to avoid violent revolution. If it does need to turn to that though, then what will be there to replace capitalism?

Its literally an alternative where workers own the means of production. How is that not outside the system? They already exist in pockets around the world.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Its literally an alternative where workers own the means of production. How is that not outside the system?

Because capitalism isn't just individual companies, it is also the state, financial systems, markets, etc. If two out of 5 production systems become cooperatives the owners of the last 3 are gonna instruct the police to restore capitalist control to the two.