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[–] Cyberspark@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right, because I'm specifically talking about fallacies. You're currently exhibiting the fallacy fallacy, which is when you assume an argument is wrong because it's fallacious.

I have my judgement on this topic already (I'm not for or against it, but its more complicated than that too), I'm responding to people who are struggling to understand even the first fallacy that I found, which honestly makes me think this is actually really important to do.

If you can't see the flaws in the argument that "we're making the first bridge across this river, so we're your only hope for a bridge across the river". You're going to have some really tough times not being scammed.

I've spent more time in this comment section having to explain how that's a fallacious argument than I spent watching the video. This is utterly absurd that I need to explain that just because there's only one initiative doesn't mean it's the only possible initiative.

You lot are having an argument against a position I don't hold and a argument I'm not making.

[–] mke@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I sincerely apologize if I misrepresented your position, I hate it when that happens to me. Maybe I was too defensive. I genuinely tried to engage with your original comment as I understood it. It didn't help that, in my experience, people who start off a discussion like this:

Makes me want to sit down watch it and pick out any falacies, but let's be honest, that's not likely to happen.

Tell me you don't understand fallacies without telling me you don't understand fallacies I guess.

Are often not discussing in good faith.

If you can't see the flaws in the argument that "we're making the first bridge across this river, so we're your only hope for a bridge across the river". You're going to have some really tough times not being scammed.

Yes, but I addressed in my previous comment how I don't believe that's the spirit of the message being conveyed.

Regardless, if you've already spent that much time in this comment section, there's no need to drag things out even more. You sound very set in your ideas—whatever they are, what you meant to accomplish; I don't think I've grasped them quite yet—so I won't bother you further.

Hope you have a good day.

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 3 points 3 months ago

I admire your patience in interacting with such an obnoxious individual lol