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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (15 children)

Unfortunately this is basic game theory, so the “smart” thing is to have the weapons, but avoid war.

Once we’ve grown past war, we can disarm, but it couldn’t happen in the opposite order.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (7 children)

The process of collective disarming is the path towards growing past war. And that first step is the collective banning of manufacturing such weapons.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I disagree. War isn’t caused by weapons. It’s caused by racism, religious strife, economic hardship, natural resource exploitation, and more. Those need fixed before anyone will be willing to put away their weapons.

[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Life doesn't adhere to waterfall methodology: we don't have to do one first, and then the other. We can progressively disarm as we're addressing the problems you mentioned..

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Fair enough, but there’s still far too much conflict to begin demilitarization at this point in time. What the world can mostly agree on is to limit itself to being destroyed 55 times over by nuclear weapons (by UN estimates). And that’s in a world where nobody has actually used nuclear weapons (offensively) in 90 years.

These kinds of things take so many generations because the fundamental conflict between humans is not resolved. If there had been no Cold War, maybe we would have totally denuclearized by now, but I still doubt it.

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