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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 141 points 3 months ago (35 children)

I remain irritated we're spending so much money on self driving cars instead of buses, trains, and improving our living spaces to support them.

Like you could spend billions to try to get self driving cars to work, and get part way there. And you'd still have a car-first dystopia.

Or you could spend billions to deploy buses and make walkable neighborhoods. Well understood, many good side effects.

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Trains are way easier to make self driving too, we've had autonomous trains since the 60s.

[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The only reason trains are not self-driving is humans designed the whole system in a too complicated way. Trains had all the ingredients for safe self-driving for decades.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

In the US a few decades ago the big rail companies were given the ultimatum to upgrade their safety infrastructure or have a national speed limit of 79 mph imposed on them.

Guess which they did?

[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Trains have even more obnoxious horns though.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

And are legally required to blast them in populated areas

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They usually only use the horn at crossings. Automated trains are grade separated. The SkyTrain rolls through Vancouver all night and you can hardly hear it.

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