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[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

How many people have died from "supression" (whatever it means in this context) in the Crimea, that has been occupied for 10 years now?
And the next question - how come this number (is it 0 or more?) is less then the number of civilians (some of whom be Ukrainians or ex-Ukrainians) that died from Ukrainian shelling of Crimea?
Do you think people should have a choice of dying in this, very real, war, or in some hypothetical could-happen war in the future?

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bro people died defending it and the rest fled so they weren't raped or sledgehammered to death.

What's your solution dipshit.

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bro people died defending it and the rest fled so they weren't raped or sledgehammered to death.

Are we still talking about Crimea? Because what you are saying is completely false...

Please link some proofs to what you're saying.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Are you honestly looking for proof of the crimean invasion famously costing Ukraine an international airport and many many dead defenders.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Antonov_Airport

The only people who say no one died dispite all evidence otherwise is Russia.

Ed: PS claiming you're Ukrainian is pretty shitty boss, you clearly aren't what's next you have cancer and a Canadian girlfriend?

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you trolling or something?
We are talking about Crimea in 2014, and you are linking an article from 2022 about Kiev..

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

6 dead

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation

Try again dipshit, move the goalposts however youd like I'll make sure I refute every single one.

Donbas also 2014 invasion.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

6 dead

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation

From the header of the article there were 2 soldiers killed and 2 civilians killed. So equal to amount of people that died just from the Ukrainian shelling of Crimea in 2024 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2024_Sevastopol_missile_attack. How does it misalign with anything I've said?

move the goalposts however youd like I'll make sure I refute every single one.

Okay sure! First task for you: quote me moving goalposts in this thread at least once :) This has been about Crimea from the start, and you're the one trying to move the goalpost :)

Donbas

Oops you just moved the goalpost..

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Protest is defense dipshit.

No it's been about your nonsensical stance to end a war. Idealistic bullshit isn't going to stop anything. Fighting stopped in 2016.... And started again when Russia invaded a different part of Ukraine. But no, sure they'll never invade again, it's not like they've done it multiple times in our lifetime or anything.

Ed: no moved goalpost for me, my point is they've invaded before, agreed to stop and are yet again invading, thusly your point makes no goddamn sense.