this post was submitted on 15 Aug 2024
386 points (92.1% liked)

Memes

45704 readers
1121 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

fuck all the actual people that live in Ukraine and have had their lives upended or destroyed because of the war.

They wouldn't have had their lives upended if we weren't doing everything in our power to prolong the war! This is the absolute worst case scenario for actual Ukrainians.

Never said we were, just said I’ve served, so don’t put words in my mouth.

So you understand making the world a worse place isn't the gotcha you seem to think it is right?

they democratically elected their leader

The one who suspended elections after he got elected on a platform of peace and failed to end the civil war?

apparently living in a prison-state worse than Russia.

How many Ukrainians living in Ukraine do you know? I'm certain it's less than the actual Ukrainian right here telling you what the situation is.

So go fuck yourself, I don’t know why you’re defending some Russian troll.

You really don't give a shit about actual Ukrainians beyond their willingness to bleed for the profits of the military industrial complex.

[–] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

They wouldn't have had their lives upended if we weren't doing everything in our power to prolong the war!

They wouldn't have had their lives upended if Russia didn't illegitimately invade their homeland. Twice, in the last decade, I believe. I also don't know wtf you mean when you say prolong the war, if Ukraine stopped fighting now you don't think Russia wouldn't just go at it again?

So you understand making the world a worse place isn't the gotcha you seem to think it is right?

So you understand that this discussion is about OPC and their view on Ukraine and the Russian invasion? I told you I served to answerbyour initial question as to why I don't go fight in Ukraine: I've already done my time in the service, was the implication you seemed to miss.

Trying another subject change isn't the gotcha you think it is, kid.

The one who suspended elections after he got elected on a platform of peace and failed to end the civil war?

The one who's following Ukrainian law and listening to the general vibe of the country and the situation with the war?

Or the Zelensky who is open to the idea of having elections, but does not think it's a good idea based on both the law and I assume logistical decisions, like having mass groups if people located in small areas for extended periods of time during, say, a war.

Not being literate on the world stage isn't the gotcha you think it is, bud.

How many Ukrainians living in Ukraine do you know? I'm certain it's less than the actual Ukrainian right here telling you what the situation is.

None, as does the very obvious Russian bot who's, like I said before, just propagating the same Russian State Media talking points that you've somehow fallen for. Sad, really.

You really don't give a shit about actual Ukrainians beyond their willingness to bleed for the profits of the military industrial complex.

Mm, no, I do give a shit about a sovereign nation defending themselves from a foreign aggressor, and reclaiming any illegally held territory going back to, idk, 2013-ish. 🤷‍♀️ If it was so important to the military industrial complex, why did the GOP actively fight to stop it? That's taken money out of the wealthy's purse, can't have that.

You also never answered why you're defending a Russian troll, so let's try again in a language you may understand:

Почему вы защищаете русского тролля?