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[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

To make them cheap, make it yourself.

Making oat milk is a really simple process & to make it more like commercially available products, you can add various other ingredients such as xanthan gum to bind it as well as various things for flavour such as a small amount of cinnamon.

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nobody has the time to do that. I am not going to put that much work (and that is not laziness) in manually making oat milk when I have a million other things to think, manage and do. This mindset will absolutely never help adoption of more vegan practices. I am all for inching towards less meat/animal related foods but it has to be viable, optimal and must not be a nutritional compromise (protein combining with one compact meal is fair).

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody has the time to do that.

Plant milks need to become way cheaper than currently 5x the cost for me in India.

So you have 3 choices there:

  1. Examine your time management as you will have time that youre actually just procrastinating or pursuing bullshit that doesnt really matter as much as you think. (Dont lie - Very few people actually dont).

It takes 10 minutes to make a batch. Less time than will take you to walk to a shop (see here for a simple recipe/process: https://minimalistbaker.com/make-oat-milk/ )

  1. Pay 5x the cost for plant based products - is your time really worth that much in exchange for the convenience?

  2. Keep drinking disgusting cows milk.

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keep drinking disgusting cows milk.

These are the kind of reasons why vegans will never be able to convince people. Go on. That advocacy is surely working.

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not vegan. I just don't drink milk and I'm certainly not advocating veganism because you don't have the ability to commit to 10 minutes to make your own oat milk so howTF are you going to make such a lifestyle change?

All I did was say how easy it is to make yourself as you complained about the cost and when you bleated about your very busy important lifestyle, laid out your options.

It's quite obvious the biggest hurdle to you making changes to your life is you so good luck with that and I hope it works out.

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

the biggest hurdle to you making changes to your life

Have you not realised yet, how unreasonable is it for people to obsess over food instead of other things? Veganism is a lifestyle and becomes something to obsess about in daily life, due to the lack of calorie dense non-fat foods compared to meat/dairy, and its just a whole lot effort to do anything. Stop selling it as 10 minutes, this liberal behaviour exists with products like Nestlé Maggi 2-minute noodles where nobody ever cooked them in 2 minutes.

I will inch towards making those changes, but not at the cost of revolving my life around veganism lifestyle and habits. This is not an issue with omnivore way of eating, where I can adjust on a gradient how much dairy and meat I eat to cover for vegan macro and micro nutritional deficiencies.