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Why Wayland adoption to have official support in programs is so slow? (wayland.freedesktop.org)

submitted 3 months ago by Psyhackological@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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Wayland seems ready to me but the main problem that many programs are not configured / compiled to support it. Why is that? I know it's not easy as "Wayland support? Yes" (but in many cases adding a flag is enough but maybe it's not a perfect support). What am I missing? Even Blender says if it fails to use Wayland it will use X11.

When Wayland is detected, it is the preferred system, otherwise X11 will be used

Also XWayland has many limitations as X11 does.

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[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is a thread about slow uptake by programs of Wayland.

X works for me.

[–] ijhoo@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right. And I'm interested if there are some legitimate needs for you to run x until it stops working.

Or is this just a revolt?

[–] sfera@beehaw.org 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's a revolt. Why would they put effort into changing something which works for them with the risk of breaking things? They also wrote "knowingly" which probably means that they won't have an issue with a switch if their distro manages to make a seamless transition.

Some people just want to get their stuff done, without diving into technical details. And as long as that works for them, they won't actively change anything.

[–] ijhoo@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why would they put effort into changing something which works for them with the risk of breaking things?

The sentiment is similar to climate change deniers. Why would we stop with fossil fuels when they work, people have jobs, etc. And why would we risk breaking the power grid?

And as long as that works for them, they won't actively change anything.

Wayland on gnome and Ubuntu is already the default. It seems to me you have to actively change the default to x.

It would be interesting to see in which scenario x is better than wayland. The only reason I can think of is an (old) Nvidia card. With new Nvidia's I guess the statement would otherwise be 'i will not use it until they fix Wayland'

[–] sfera@beehaw.org 4 points 3 months ago

The sentiment is similar to climate change deniers.

I don't think that the survival of humankind potentially depends on the adoption speed of Wayland. If anything ever breaks, it will affect only a few individuals which can then still change course.

There are a lot of people using hardware from the last decade. I would even dare to assume that most Linux desktop users do, because that's how you still can get the most out of old hardware.

I have an old tower which I sometimes use for light gaming. It runs X11 because Wayland had some issues on this specific machine. I don't remember which and don't really care to investigate unless it becomes necessary. Until then I'm just happy when I have a little time to use it. And that works perfectly for my needs. For now