I'm not rewarding them for anything, but I accept that it's possible to oppose one policy a politician has, even a very important one, and at the same time support a lot of other policies they have, while also vehemently opposing almost all policies that their opponent supports, and make my choice based on that information.

Based on this post, you seem to be a single-issue voter, though, so I'm trying to understand what you're hoping the outcome is. You acknowledge that a vote that supports Trump, even indirectly, is not helping the people of Gaza, so why would you vote against your own self-interests? What's your goal?

If your goal is to show opposition to what's happening in Gaza, there's much more effective ways to do that. Get out there and protest - the protests at the DNC are getting a lot of news coverage, that's where your activism could actually make a difference. Not here.

[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The guys is just a trump/maga shill who exploits the suffering in Gaza to attack the democratic party. That's all he every posts about. Don't waste your time.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 19 points 3 months ago

I don't think it's a waste of time. Even if I can't convince him specifically, there are other people reading these posts. If someone came to this thread who was less sure, and I can change their mind, that's good enough for me.

[+] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Would you be a single-issue voter if you were the victim of Genocide?

The outcome is the Democrats stop committing Genocide or they don't get votes. "But Trump" isn't even an argument.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

If I were the victim of genocide, I wouldn't be a voter at all, because I'd be dead. However, that's kind of irrelevant - are you the victim of genocide? I'm assuming not, if you're voting in the US election. Even if you're Palestinian, your people are the victim of genocide, but unless you're in Palestine, you aren't.

That said, if you are Palestinian, I feel for you, I honestly do, and it would explain your view somewhat.

I think we can both agree that there's only two outcomes that're possible in this election: Trump wins, or Harris wins. (If you don't agree, I'd be happy to hear your third outcome.) If you truly believe there's no difference between the two of them, you need to do some research on the topic, because there are a lot of differences, even if they don't pertain to this issue specifically.

If, between the two of them, you hope Harris wins, a 3rd party vote is voting against your interests. If you hope Trump wins between the two of them, a 3rd party vote is still voting against your interests, because you're effectively taking a vote away from your preferred candidate among the two who could possibly win.

Edit to respond to your edit:

The outcome is the Democrats stop committing Genocide or they don’t get votes. “But Trump” isn’t even an argument.

Unless you're out there protesting, or writing letters, or making phone calls, or in some way letting them know that their policy is costing them your vote, it's a useless gesture. Posting on Lemmy isn't going to change any politician's minds. It's not even going to change anyone's mind here, in all likelihood. If you actually want to make a difference, you need to make your voice heard by the people whose minds you're actually trying to change.

[+] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Not every victim of Genocide is killed. Any person who was put in a concentration camp by Hitler, or even persecuted, was a victim of the Holocaust. Similarly any person in Gaza is the victim of a Genocide. And you don't have to be a Palestinian to empathise with people.

Your scope of analysis is limited to 4 years. There's no long term analysis. If people vote for Genocide it will cement that Democrats can get away with anything if they fearmonger hard enough.

When people threaten to withhold votes for a Genocide they have to follow through or all the leverage falls away. It's a game of chicken now.

[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's a game of chicken now.

And if you're not scared of a convicted felon who promises to be a dictator on day one and has the Supreme Court in his pocket who granted him immunity as well as a cult like following who stormed the Capitol to attempt an insurrection yet who also praises dictators and salutes their generals and has nothing to lose getting ahold of the Presidency then I don't know what to tell ya. But sure, let's play chicken with the saner and lesser of the two evils and help MAGA win.

[+] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We've heard this one in 2016. The duopoly will not allow the facade to end. There will be elections in 2028.

[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We've heard this one in 2016.

He was a convicted felon who had the Supreme Court in his pocket who granted him immunity as well as an attempted insurrection in his honor and he saluted hostile generals?

I don't remember if he promised to be a dictator on day one or had already praised dictators back then, so I'll grant you that one out of...everything else he's done since then which was not covered in 2016.

[–] shiftymccool@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

OK, I'll bite. Trump wins. Give your "long term analysis"

[+] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Democrats won't do Genocide in 2028 if they win then because they have now learnt they can't get away with literally anything by feamongering.

Democrats can't just say they're "not Trump". They have to be "not Trump".

[–] shiftymccool@programming.dev 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

4 years? That's your idea of "long term"? You honestly think losing one election will teach anybody anything? How the fuck will they know what lesson to learn when they lose? As other commenters have said, their are other issues the two parties disagree on. How will they know what one to blame for losing?

On the other hand, pubs are learning that they can run a convicted felon that promises a dictatorship if he wins. Yeah, let's set that precedent...