Please read theory, you're speaking nonsense. No one is advocating for 3 random Communists to overthrow the state by themselves. There can be no revolutionary movement without the support of the masses.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can absolutely have a revolution without majority support, you just need support of the majority of the power.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not exactly a revolution then.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What'd you call a overthrow of the government with say 30% popular support? A coup?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Depends. You're very interested in avoiding reading books, so I don't really care to play semantical games with you when you don't know what we are talking about to begin with.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You have suggestions for books? I'm not going to be able to read more than a couple of pages in the middle of this conversation, but maybe after we're done?

My point is I don't think you should be advocating starting revolution till that opinion is close to a majority.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The book I linked in the beginning, Reform or Revolution, goes over the futility of Reform and the necessity of Revolution.

My point is I don't think you should be advocating starting revolution till that opinion is close to a majority.

Nobody is advocating for prematurely trying to force a revolution, that is Adventurism and is looked down upon by Communists. Instead, build up dual power along democratic lines, so that when the contradictions within Capitalism and Imperialism weaken the State, there exists a ready-made organization that can integrate with the working masses. Read The State and Revolution for the strategy for Revolution, specifically.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It seemed like you were suggesting in your original comment that voting was futile and that we needed a revolution instead.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Voting is futile when it comes to enacting positive change, and we do need a revolution to actually enact change, but that doesn't mean we can will a revolution into existence out of thin-air. Revolution is inevitable in Capitalist systems as Capitalism declines out of its necessary contradictions.

It would be great if you would read some of what I have linked.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

So do you think people should vote or not?