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Anon pregames (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 2 months ago by Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works to c/greentext@sh.itjust.works

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[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 109 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Drunk people and consent is a moral and legal gray area - it doesn’t matter if they initiate

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Depends how drunk

[–] Senseless@feddit.org 59 points 2 months ago

Yeah, sure. But since she already threw up, she's drunk enough to make it problematic.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It also depends on what is being consented to. We accept that drunk people can consent to commit crimes, but that they cannot consent to have sex.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 25 points 2 months ago

If drunk people couldn't consent as a rule then like 80% of Finnish one night stands would be double rapes (since both are getting raped by the other party) lol

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And the old "I cheated on you because I was drunk". It's not so heartwarming that people here are belittling rape with what would be considered negligent sexual assault at the worst.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

I'm just pointing out a strange legal quandary. Obviously noone should fuck around with consent.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago

hm, yeah so if you can't consent when drunk, then you also can't cheat when drunk. Because it's non consensual in both cases. (at least intentionally, so it would be a valid excuse in this case)

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

well if someone gets really drunk (not being drugged by others, but doing it because they want to) and commits a crime, thats still a crime they commited

if im wrong please explain

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 months ago

You're wrong, drunk drivers never get fined when they run over someone.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

legal gray area - it doesn’t matter if they initiate

is there a legal basis for this statement? There very well could be, i don't do a lot of raping so i wouldn't know anything about this lmao