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what are other options?
Matrix. It can be self hosted, federated, and has encrypted chat rooms.
Anti Commercial-AI license
I want to like Matrix but it has some serious usability issues (at least Element does, its flagship client).
I haven't used Revolt but looks a lot more polished.
Matrix is great and works great.
Element is a semi abandoned client that happened to come from some of the makers of matrix.
Use literally anything else. Fluffychat works for me. Element is okay for debugging sometimes so I keep it handy.
But the commenters point stands. In matrix, you can send whatever you like, as illegal or morally corrupt as you wish because its nobody‘s fucking business AND e2ee.
If someone on my server sends csam, I would never know unless someone reported it to me. Because thats how privacy works.
The new Element X is really great, but only available for iOS and Android. Unfortunately no desktop or web version.
It is pretty good but pretty reduced in functionality imo. Thats why I generally suggest fluffychat. Its nowhere perfect either but it works better on a daily basis for me.
it wasn't abandoned, they are developing an overhaul with a more efficient sync API that required them to rethink how it works internally
I know. I said semi abandoned because element x is their focus, which is the reason they are not adding features to element and are hesitant to put in fixes for things that would require massive changes.
This is still not ideal because the flagship app isnt advancing in a good speed. Thats why I dont recommend it.
How it works (to simplify) is them giving up on matrix clients ever becoming performant and well behaving on handheld devices (because of the absurd complexity of the protocol), and, instead of doing something about that, just decided to shift the client logic onto the server and castrating the clients (esp. for offline features). It's also good short-term business because it makes hosting Matrix even more cumbersome and expensive, giving a compelling reason for the type of midscale/corporate deployments previously on the fence about their self-hosting costs (due to poor design and scalability) to just pay Element for that (while probably contemplating an alternative future).
Element is a complete disaster.
Like, completely unmaintained and broken.