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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (14 children)

The Dems will preserve a political model that's at least malleable. 3rds will need to work together to push ranked choice more and more into voters' field of view.

Republicans will swan-dive into fascism, in which case 3rds (and everyone else) are fucked.

Dems aren't going to help 3rds directly, but any one who wants the possibility of a 3rd party victory later is committing political suicide by failing to vote blue as a means of buying time. Voting 3rd when that 3rd has no potential for victory is self-destructive.

[–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Also just following the green party a bit and educating your self about them... you learn that the green party is as focused on selfish personal horse race politics that deals with power plays, as the dem party (though on a smaller scale) instead of actual change.

This political cycle, Green party had a chance to radically push the Dems on palestine, by putting up a candidate that would drop out if Dems changed their position on support for Israel.

Jill Stein rejected it.

Just the fact they rejected it shows to me that they're not serious about actual political change. They just want to be a spoiler. They continue to only run in general elections instead ofnpushing in states.

So I guess i have no home party, but Ill vote for the lesser of two evils still.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This is incredibly dishonest. The Greens actually did the compromise thing in 2020 and didn't go as hard so Dems could beat Trump.

In return they got Democrats doing Genocide and AOC Pelosi now yapping about how Greens are "predatory" honest because they dropped in the 2020 polls.

Democrats can not do Genocide they don't need to Greens to bow down for them.

[–] isaaclw@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In return? Dems have always been for genocide. Joe Biden has been terrible for Israel Paleatine.

Dems are better on this issue than they ever have been (Biden excluded) due to activist pressure, no thanks to Greens.

Pelosi actuall said in March that we should limit sales to Israel. I don't think people realize how incredible that is.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Dems are better on this issue than they ever have been

Which is why Harris is saying she's going to keep sending bombs to israel to burn Palestinian babies with and she's signaling that she wants to start a war with Iran right?

Pelosi actuall said in March that we should limit sales to Israel. I don’t think people realize how incredible that is.

Ok... Did they do it?

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