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OpenAI has publicly responded to a copyright lawsuit by The New York Times, calling the case “without merit” and saying it still hoped for a partnership with the media outlet.

In a blog post, OpenAI said the Times “is not telling the full story.” It took particular issue with claims that its ChatGPT AI tool reproduced Times stories verbatim, arguing that the Times had manipulated prompts to include regurgitated excerpts of articles. “Even when using such prompts, our models don’t typically behave the way The New York Times insinuates, which suggests they either instructed the model to regurgitate or cherry-picked their examples from many attempts,” OpenAI said.

OpenAI claims it’s attempted to reduce regurgitation from its large language models and that the Times refused to share examples of this reproduction before filing the lawsuit. It said the verbatim examples “appear to be from year-old articles that have proliferated on multiple third-party websites.” The company did admit that it took down a ChatGPT feature, called Browse, that unintentionally reproduced content.

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[–] SheeEttin@programming.dev 94 points 10 months ago (50 children)

The problem is not that it's regurgitating. The problem is that it was trained on NYT articles and other data in violation of copyright law. Regurgitation is just evidence of that.

[–] regbin_@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Training on copyrighted data should be allowed as long as it's something publicly posted.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Only if the end result of that training is also something public. OpenAI shouldn't be making money on anything except ads if they're using copyright material without paying for it.

[–] themusicman@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I was trained on copyrighted material... I guess I should work for free

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

Why an exception for ads if you're going that route? Wouldn't advertisers deserve the same protections as other creatives?

Personally, since they're not making copies of the input (beyond what's transiently required for processing), and they're not distributing copies, I'm not sure why copyright would come into play.

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