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‘Impossible’ to create AI tools like ChatGPT without copyrighted material, OpenAI says::Pressure grows on artificial intelligence firms over the content used to train their products

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[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (16 children)

But our current copyright model is so robust and fair! They will only have to wait 95y after the author died, which is a completely normal period.

If you want to control your creations, you are completely free to NOT publish it. Nowhere it's stated that to be valuable or beautiful, it has to be shared on the world podium.

We'll have a very restrictive Copyright for non globally transmitted/published works, and one for where the owner of the copyright DID choose to broadcast those works globally. They have a couple years to cash in, and then after I dunno, 5 years, we can all use the work as we see fit. If you use mass media to broadcast creative works but then become mad when the public transforms or remixes your work, you are part of the problem.

Current copyright is just a tool for folks with power to control that power. It's what a boomer would make driving their tractor / SUV while chanting to themselves: I have earned this.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (14 children)
[–] just_change_it@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I think it's pretty amazing when people just run with the dogma that empowers billionaires.

Every creator hopes they'll be the next taylor swift and that they'll retain control of their art for those life + 70 years and make enough to create their own little dynasty.

The reality is that long duration copyright is almost exclusively a tool of the already wealthy, not a tool for the not-yet-wealthy. As technology improves it will be easier and easier for wealth to control the system and deny the little guy's copyright on grounds that you used something from their vast portfolio of copyright/patent/trademark/ipmonopolyrulelegalbullshit. Already civil legal disputes are largely a function of who has the most money.

I don't have the solution that helps artists earn a living, but it doesn't seem like copyright is doing them many favors as-is unless they are retired rockstars who have already earned in excess of the typical middle class lifetime earnings by the time they hit 35, or way earlier.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Current Copyright Law Imperfect,

Yeah and Joseph Stalin was a bit naughty. As long as we are seeing how understated we can be.

If you don’t have the solution, perhaps you should not attack one of the remaining defenses against rampant abuses of peoples’ livelihood.

The creator of Superman wasnt paid royalties and was laid off. Many years later he worked a restaurant delivery guy and ended up dropping off food at DC comics. The artist that built that company doing a sandwich run.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you got an accusation go ahead and make it. I will be hearing downloading a fucking car

[–] LWD@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I am on topic. Our copyright system is flamming garbage and this is a money grab. Everyone is sitting here getting all worked up about who the criminal is and I am asking who the victim is.

Tell me the name of the artist whose career was ruined by AI copying their original art work. I am not impressed by J.K. "billionaire terf" Rowling POTENTIALLY not making another half million. If you can't produce a victim then there is no crime.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Wouldn't know. I don't click random links. If you have an argument make it.

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