It plays into the trope of Jews control everything. It handwaves every blatantly obvious reality about the relationship between the US and Isreal and says "Yup that colonial apendage is the real master of the US, because Jews."

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Saying that the US - the global imperialist hegemon - is controlled by Isreal, on top of being ridiculous, is deeply antisemitic.

Isn't that an Israeli talking point tho, that any criticism of them is anti-semitic, equating any criticism of the zionist project as anti-semitic? Seems like both white-supremacists (who want to see an evil jewish cabal controlling everything), and Israel (who want their state to be equated with judaism), agree on that equation, even though they're on opposite sides.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Isreal hides behind all of semitism as a human shield, so it makes sense that of the criticisms they label antisemitic (all of them) that some of them actually would be. It's understandable (not good or tolerable but also not an anomaly) that given the hideously complicated level of intertwining machinery between our two occupation governments, someone without a materialist grounding in the subject could come to confuse who controls who, especially someone who's grown up marinating in casually fascist explanations for the state of the world like most of us did

I just realized that it kind of sounds like I was implying you don't know materialism so I wanna clarify that I'm talking about a hypothetical rando, I know you're Dessalines lmao

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Exactly. Im a stickler on this point because I've had to go through conversations with left leaning jewish friends who still have some lingering brainworms. It matters to understand what is actual antisemitism. The zionist will not act in good faith - so it's even more important for us to understand the difference

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