BurgerPunk

Everyone arguing with you is anti-zionist. We want Isreal as it exists to end. If you care about the injustice and genocide of that fascist settler-colonial state, then I don't get why you want to die on the hill of an antisemitic position

You're really pretending you can't see the trope you've tripled down on? Its ZOG. Its the one way to criticize Isreal that actually is antisemitic

It's the anti-Zionist Liberal interpretation, excusing the Empire for the deeds its Vassal commits.

Nailed it. They need to excuse the US and they get to do it in a racist way. Liberal win-win

Smol bean US being controlled by their own vassal that couldn't exist without their support. This is really deep analysis. You are a very deep thinker.

Exactly. Im a stickler on this point because I've had to go through conversations with left leaning jewish friends who still have some lingering brainworms. It matters to understand what is actual antisemitism. The zionist will not act in good faith - so it's even more important for us to understand the difference

You think your antisemtic trope is analysis?

Isn't that an Israeli talking point tho, that any criticism of them is anti-semitic, equating any criticism of the zionist project as anti-semitic?

No. What I'm saying is that specifically believing the US is controlled by Isreal - that the US is subordinate to Isreal - that is an antisemitic belief (on top of being ridiculous). That's not an isreali talking point. Believing that is not helping combat zionism - it helps it.

I'm anti-zionist. That's why its very important to me to point out this antisemitic belief because its detrimental to the cause of anti-zionism.

I love Stalin's writings style. That's a great breakdown. Dialectic and Historical Materislism is the best explanation of those concepts.

That's a lot of words to double down on an antisemitic trope

The US could theoretically not allow themselves to be controlled. But that's not the reality.

I agree. He made great contributions to theory. Foundations of Leninism is great - and he's a really good writer on top of it. Unsurprising as he was a voracious reader of Marxist theory.

Idk how any of that is antisemitic though

Saying that the US - the global imperialist hegemon - is controlled by Isreal, on top of being ridiculous, is deeply antisemitic.

It plays into the trope of Jews control everything. It handwaves every blatantly obvious reality about the relationship between the US and Isreal and says "Yup that colonial apendage is the real master of the US, because Jews."

Are you denying the existence of AIPAC?

The US government is controlled by Israel,

Yes that is antisemitic nonsense, but it also doesn't make any sense leaving that aside. You're saying the global imperialist hegemon is controlled by an appendage of its own policy. You're giving a pass to the US for it's policy and part in genocide by saying its "controled" by Isreal.

It is of course the other way around. Isreal destabilizes the Middle East toward the equilibrium the US favors. The US uses Isreal, its not controled by it