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In instructions to Google, Judge Rossignoli says that the company must “adopt the necessary technical means to immediately uninstall from Android systems that report IP addresses in the territory of the Argentine Republic (which can be verified by the IP addresses assigned to this country), the application named Magis TV.”

"What was achieved is an unprecedented court order, which is in the process of being analyzed by Google – we understand that they cannot deny it – which is to uninstall, through the Android operating system update, the application on all devices that have an IP address in Argentina,” [prosecuter Alejandro] Musso says.

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[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

WTO/ICC Arbitration coming in 3 ... 2 ...

Honestly, I hope Google just stops doing business in Argentina. Let their courts tussle with phone manufacturers that sell Android devices until they do the same. Not the end of the world if your citizens have to buy such things grey-market or keep using what they already have, or buy devices with other operating systems.

Before you say Apple, Apple would have to handle it pretty much the same as Google if/when they get sued/prosecuted like so.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Its just that Apple doesnt allow sideloading and thus can demand a takedown which could result in an automatic uninstall.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wasn't recently a resolution in the EU to allow apple to have alternative app stores and thus allow side loading?

[–] towerful@programming.dev 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Which applies to EU countries.
Not sure if apple is going to do separate builds for separate regions

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

They will do. Afaik the US and rest of the world will be stuck with the old FU-policy

[–] Localhorst86@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago

Even if you are a EU citizen, apple will remove your ability to sideload if you leave the EU for an extended period (I dont recall if it is 30 or 90 days)

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

It’s not separate builds, but the App Store already checks your location when you access it, and it uses that location data along with other hints you are under EU jurisdiction to decide whether to allow you to sideload or not.

Or you can use the developer tools to perform a more limited form of sideloading in any country.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The ICC doesn't have jurisdiction over civil matters. The ICC only has jurisdiction over the most egregious of war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide, on a voluntary transnational basis (you have to be a signatory country, which I believe Argentina is).

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's the International Criminal Court, yes, but there's also the International Chamber of Commerce.

The confusion gives them(the Commerce peeps) a veneer of authority, although as a facet of the International Monetary Foundation that the US/EU requires countries to sign onto in order to do business, they do issue binding decisions versus member countries. That, or the US get's more hands-on with its meddling.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ah I get you, sorry, I stand corrected. Surely such a claim would come forward through the WTO though, would it not? Would the ICC (the Chamber of Commerce) have enough teeth as the forum for what's surely a monumental case?

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The WTO is probably right. I couldn't remember earlier, did some googling, and went with what I found. The WTO and IMF together are a global juggernaut. The ICC is ... the one that sticks out in my memory, for some reason.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I believe the ICC does have a dispute forum. But when you get to these IGOs, it's unbelievable how many there are. Could probably bring the complaint forward in multiple other forums too.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In the case of the IMF, its unbelievable how much power and influence they have.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Monetary policy makes the world go round, unfortunately.