Be better to just go ahead and achieve a Dictatorship of the Proletariat, any Capitalism that remains can be kept no bigger than can be crushed easily if it gets out of hand.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

No dictatorship is ethical, the state is inherently unjust and oppressive. Also see: USSR, China, and North Korea.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

No dictatorship is ethical, the state is inherently unjust and oppressive

The Dicatorship of the Proletariat refers to a democratic proletarian government. The State is a tool by which one class oppresses others, hence why it is important for the proletariat to assume command. Once classes are abolished, the state itself withers away into an administration of things.

Also see: USSR, China, and North Korea.

See what? Democratization?

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're just another bootlicker, the only difference being that the boot has been painted red. Were you a real leftist, you would understand that so called 'communism' executed this way only leads to the creation of a new ruling class that the people first obey because they believe it can liberate them, and after that, because they are surrounded by propaganda and would be imprisoned or killed otherwise.

I beg you to educate yourself and start looking at tankie propaganda more critically instead of breaking your chains only to hand yourself over to a new ruler.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

You're just another bootlicker, the only difference being that the boot has been painted red

Lmao

Were you a real leftist, you would understand that so called 'communism' executed this way only leads to the creation of a new ruling class that the people first obey because they believe it can liberate them, and after that, because they are surrounded by propaganda and would be imprisoned or killed otherwise.

I am a real leftist, thank you very much. If you can explain how elected delegates constitute a "ruling class," then that would be appreciated. The idea that Communists were supported because of propaganda and threats ignores the doubling of life expectancy, 99%+ literacy rates, free healthcare and education, democratization, and reduced wealth inequality. You ignore material reality.

I beg you to educate yourself and start looking at tankie propaganda more critically instead of breaking your chains only to hand yourself over to a new ruler.

I beg you to educate yourself and start looking at US Empire propaganda more critically instead of supporting the status quo while whining about it.

Honestly, the idea that I am somehow brainwashed by "tankie propaganda" despite living in a system where Marxism is demonized daily is silly, you know your quip doesn't make any sense.

Read Blackshirts and Reds, and read theory.