this post was submitted on 28 Sep 2024
35 points (58.6% liked)
Memes
45704 readers
1206 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Of course voting is not the only course of action. Voting is incredibly little. What, you check a box? Maybe wait a few hours at most to get into a pilling station? Dear God.
This is an incredibly limited amount of political action, particularly given the way in which box checking translates into any political action (electoral college, media monopolies, biased education, wage slavery limiting political education, campaigns built on donations from capital).
You actually do political work. You become educated and join an organization that does more than act as a sheepdog that turns alienatuon into genocide votes.
And in the end Trump wins the vote and you lose your oppurtunity to do any real politcal work! Congrats.
Trump was already president once and my political work was actually easier because liberals were outraged and could not understand the complicoty of their representatives. Their representatives merely reflect the cynical apathy of their position that is shielded when they are in power.
If Trump were an existential threat would you just be sitting around posting bad logic? You know he is just an incremental partial detriment in some ways and some vague miasma in other ways. Biden is, for example, a much more coherent genocidal Zionist, as is Harris.
Rather than quibble about how to appease one's inner Eichmann, why not fight against it?
Besides the token joke that Biden isn't a "more coherent" anything, I think Trump would be equal in this respect (not worse, but equal). He doesn't have the same developed reasons as Biden, but America's zionist project has deliberately allowed for zionist organizations like AIPAC to buy out politicians and send lobbyists to him, and Trump will definitely follow the directions of the overwhelming majority of his allies if they are given to him consistently. He didn't understand imperialism well enough to understand why military spending on South Korea made sense, but they simply don't have much sway to anyone in America except a tiny minority. Israel -- because of conditions the American imperial machine created and maintains for the purpose -- does have that sway
Hope you can look trans and queer people in the eye and tell them their genocide will be worth it in the end because you'll stop all genocides. You know, after they're dead and gone.
Hey, as a trans person involved in a socialist org, get involved in a socialist org instead of arguing for your own catharsis.
Trans genocide is happening in plenty of states even with a democrat in charge, democrats will not prevent trans genocide on a long term basis.
This is the most nothing-burger reply. Queer people are among the most vocally supportive of moving outside the bounds of electoralism because the DNC does not protect them.
Hey look you did the meme of this post.
I organize with trans communists all the time and materially support trans spaces. There is no lack of trans people that oppose both capitalist parties. But more importantly, if you are to avoid tokenizing people, you must have an actual analysis for liberation and not a monolithic "this is what trans people want" stereotyping. The latter is always incorrect and never actually happens because trans people are not a monolith. The former just means you understand this and know which trans people you disagree with. For example, I disagree with assimilationists that support genocidal Democrats and try to pretend liberation comes at the expense of others.