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[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Backseat cheerleading genociders, and telling other people to do so, is not helping. It makes you complicit and spreads a false and anemic idea of how political power works. You should be fighting them, not doing mental gymnastics for how you can still justify supporting genociders.

There is nothing strategic in what you are describing, it is actually self-defeating and this is why you are told this logic from on high.

As I originally said, join an org and fo actual work against genociders. Be part of the solution, not part of the genocide-excusing problem.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's no mental gymnastics to flipping that switch real quick, then fighting the real fight. It's you who's doing gymnastics trying to wrongly convince folks not to. The length of your post alone proves the gymnastics.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's no mental gymnastics

You're using a strained trolley problem analogy.

then fighting the real fight.

Anyone fighting the real fight has already been fighting and knows that your vote shaming for genociders is counterproductive.

It's you who's doing gymnastics trying to wrongly convince folks not to.

How am I wrong?

The length of your post alone proves the gymnastics.

My post was not long lol. Though most of it was me repeating myself because your response didn't address what I said. Same for this last response, too!

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are entirely missing pragmatism my friend. It's tragically important.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your approach is not pragmatic, it is just what you have been told to do by your masters. It does nothing but entrench the genocuders and ensure that they will never have to think about you electorally. It's a self-defeat.

I speak in terms of building leverage and organizations.

Though really, the issue here seems to be that you refuse to engage with what I say.