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[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 98 points 1 month ago (36 children)

But third party stores are already allowed and supported on Android?

[–] shrugs@lemmy.world 166 points 1 month ago (27 children)

"Allowed and supported" is something different then "its possible". The article mentions some points that seemingly haven't been "supported" in the past:

  • Stop requiring Google Play Billing for apps distributed on the Google Play Store (the jury found that Google had illegally tied its payment system to its app store)
  • Let Android developers tell users about other ways to pay from within the Play Store
  • Let Android developers link to ways to download their apps outside of the Play Store
  • Let Android developers set their own prices for apps irrespective of Play Billing

Google also can’t:

  • Share app revenue “with any person or entity that distributes Android apps” or plans to launch an app store or app platform
  • Offer developers money or perks to launch their apps on the Play Store exclusively or first
  • Offer developers money or perks not to launch their apps on rival stores
  • Offer device makers or carriers money or perks to preinstall the Play Store
  • Offer device makers or carriers money or perks not to preinstall rival stores

Thanks Mr. Epic Judge

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (18 children)

Play Store

This is all about the Play Store though, it has literally nothing to do with competing stores. I use F-Droid today and there are no restrictions from Google about what apps I can install through that store, whether I can pay for apps through that store (some apps have donation buttons inside), etc. There's nothing stopping Epic from distributing their own app store like F-Droid does even before this decision.

So I really don't understand what "cracking open Android" means here. All that seems to be happening is that Google is restricted from certain actions within its own store, which is absolutely fine by me (I don't use the Play Store), but I don't see any actual changes to Android or third-party app stores.

The closest is this one:

Offer device makers or carriers money or perks not to preinstall rival stores

But Samsung already has its own app store, no? So is there any actual evidence that this was ever a thing?

They should place these restrictions on Apple, not Google, because Apple is the one doing all of this nonsense. Yeah, Google should be reigned in a bit, but they're really not the problem here.

[–] macaroni1556@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Doesn't FDroid still not allow automatic updates due to restrictions in Android?

Meanwhile yes the Samsung galaxy store has extra power over other store alternatives because they are a powerful OEM and can modify Android as they like.

Other OEMs (ones that are often not able to use Play Services) also have their own 1st party app store. Amazon is one, but many others exist in China.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago

Fdroid has automatic updates since this year.

automatic updates

Not sure, but I generally disable them in any store I use anyway, because I like to be in control. So I'm not sure if it's a technical limitation or a technical choice.

So it's quite possible Google Play has elevated permissions to apply automatic updates. That said, I use GrapheneOS (on a Google Pixel device), so the Play store doesn't have those elevated permissions (I only use it for a couple apps on a separate profile), so I think it's not allowed to do automatic updates on my device as well.

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