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Seasoned RPG devs from Obsidian and Bioware blame the temporary death of the isometric CRPG on 'vibes-based forecasting' from retailers (www.pcgamer.com)
submitted 10 months ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to c/games@sh.itjust.works
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"I can't stress enough how often I'd hear a retail rep declare a genre/style/look was dead with zero supporting data."

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[–] yildo@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The combat has to be turn-based or it becomes an ARPG like Diablo/Dungeon Siege/Titan Quest/Torchlight

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Most of the CRPGs are RTWP rather than turn based though. Though I personally prefer turn based.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

RTWP = Real-Time with Pause, in case you were confused like me

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Although under the hood they were still turn based. The turns just kept on running unless you paused. I recently started BG2 and set it to automatically pause after every turn, which effectively made it turn based.

Contrast this with Diablo, which also had turns under the hood but they are abstracted so far away as to be almost meaningless. I think people speaking about this even use frames as the timing reference instead of turns.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Although under the hood they were still turn based

There's a really big difference, the tactic of having whoever has aggro run away while everyone else shoots projectiles doesn't work at all in an actually turn based system.