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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Conspiracy theorists disagree with official narratives. They are lie finders, not truth seekers.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If they were any good at it they'd be employed as journalists and win Pullitzer Prizes for their work. Nixon having his goons break into a hotel to steal information from his opposition is a hell of a "conspiracy theory". But we don't consider it that because Woodward and Bernstein put in the work to find the evidence.

Your typical internet conspiracy theorists are just plain lazy and very susceptible to selection bias. They make up things to fill in the gaps of their theories and refuse to change the made up bits even when they find evidence to the contrary. The general contrarianism of the internet pushes people to think the opposite of establish facts.

In the end it's just a mess of made up shit that conforms to the emotions of the person that made it up. These conspiracy theories are promoted among those with similar feelings. They push way more lies than anyone else.

Your typical internet conspiracy theorists

I don't think this exists as a group.

They make up things to fill in the gaps of their theories

Yes. The big difference between conspiracy theories and (good) journalism. Sometimes these gaps are highlighted as speculation, but often they are not. The more evidence a conspiracy theory has backing it, the closer it gets to journalism.

refuse to change the made up bits even when they find evidence to the contrary.

People like this are super easy to argue against because you can provide the supporting evidence and they shut up.

The general contrarianism of the internet pushes people to think the opposite of establish facts.

I don't think it is contrarianism. In previous decades traditional media had a monopoly on one to many communication. Now anyone can broadcast any information, true and false, to a worldwide audience.

In the end it's just a mess of made up shit that conforms to the emotions of the person that made it up.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

These conspiracy theories are promoted among those with similar feelings. They push way more lies than anyone else.

Easy to do. For example, you are now expressing a feeling, not stating a fact.

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The good ones are lie finders... The shitty, usually conservative, ones like the post is talking about love to spew their own garbage "truths"... Definitely not truth seekers, just "truth" spewers

Edit: like=lie

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think the group of people who are the subject of the post (e.g. Qanon supporters) would call themselves conspiracy theorists.

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can't lie...I know next to nothing about qanon or it's people, so you may be right

I've never met one, but I have seen them on TV (documentary). They seem very keen to follow random posts on 4chan, but they question absolutely nothing.

People that I've discussed conspiracy theories with usually don't believe anything, even other conspiracies.