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[–] Deez@lemm.ee 160 points 1 month ago (20 children)

Is the future just having a human slave in a third world country strap into VR and carry your groceries for you?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 115 points 1 month ago (18 children)

That's basically what happens right now. Remember Amazon's smart grocery store? It was just people in India watching cameras. Computer vision wasn't capable of it.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure this story was blown out of proportion and exaggerated. These people were training and validating the automated systems not watching the cameras 24/7.

That's how AI is trained, manual intervention. It wasn't working as well as they hoped, but it wasn't humans watching cameras in real time.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/17/24133029/amazon-just-walk-out-cashierless-ai-india

[–] vzq@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It sounds like the best way to bootstrap a machine learning system. You generate the data the system will be seeing in production along with the proper labels. Then in a later stage you can start doing reinforcement learning.

The problem is the lying about it.

I honestly don't see an issue with it. These robots aren't for sale, there's no estimated sale date, nor are they likely in production in any meaningful sense. Yes, he gave a price range, but that's obviously aspirational and not confirmed seeing as there's no expected release date whatsoever.

From the video I watched, it seemed obvious the robots were limited to a handful of interactions, such as:

  • hand gift bag to person - it certainly seemed to go through a certain routine each time, but the person seemed to be able to point at the one they want
  • rock paper scissors
  • fill and hand drink to someone (didn't see it in the video)
  • dance according to some choreography

There certainly seemed to be some AI happening (i.e. detect which bag, let go of gift, etc), but it seemed like a very on-rails experience.

And I got that from watching it live, not looking at someone dissect what was going on. Having a handler there to push the robot into one of a handful of pre-programmed routines seems absolutely reasonable.

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